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Post  jcopetti Sat Apr 03, 2010 8:31 am

I thought for sure LTRT would be on here trying to tear apart the GREAT jobs news we heard yesterday. The anti-Obama crowd would rather have Americans suffer and oust Obama in 3 years than see a recovery happen under his watch. This economy is going to start to grow again now and watch Obama's and congressional democrats numbers rise!

YES WE CAN!!!!!

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Post  LTRT Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:12 am

Rather than spout off with some leftist rant about those who disagree with BHO, you might want to see the real picture.

Not as rosey as it appears.

Replacing the more than eight million jobs lost since the recession started likely will take much of the next decade. The economy needs to create at least 100,000 jobs a month just to keep the unemployment rate flat, due to population growth. Because of the downturn, millions of Americans quit searching for work or dropped out of the labor force. A broader measure of unemployment, which includes people who stopped looking for work and those settling for part-time jobs, rose to 16.9% in March
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Post  Scooby01_98 Sat Apr 03, 2010 11:18 am

I find it funny the reports before the jobs report (when jobs estimated to be created was close to 300,000) it was 100,000 census worker, now since it is only 162,000 only 48,000 are census workers. Either way most of the workers are government workers (temporary ones at that). Which means the creation of real jobs is still lagging. Also most of these jobs went big business jobs, which means small businesses still are not getting the money to invest. USA Today had a nice article earlier this week on the Federal Government still hamstring banks on letting them do loans.

Remember when Bush created 200,000 jobs in a month and it was a lousy month... scratch
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Post  jcopetti Sat Apr 03, 2010 4:59 pm

Scooby01_98 wrote:I find it funny the reports before the jobs report (when jobs estimated to be created was close to 300,000) it was 100,000 census worker, now since it is only 162,000 only 48,000 are census workers. Either way most of the workers are government workers (temporary ones at that). Which means the creation of real jobs is still lagging. Also most of these jobs went big business jobs, which means small businesses still are not getting the money to invest. USA Today had a nice article earlier this week on the Federal Government still hamstring banks on letting them do loans.

Remember when Bush created 200,000 jobs in a month and it was a lousy month... scratch

Oh ... the prelude to the Great Bush Depression.

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Post  Scooby01_98 Sat Apr 03, 2010 10:42 pm

jcopetti wrote:
Scooby01_98 wrote:I find it funny the reports before the jobs report (when jobs estimated to be created was close to 300,000) it was 100,000 census worker, now since it is only 162,000 only 48,000 are census workers. Either way most of the workers are government workers (temporary ones at that). Which means the creation of real jobs is still lagging. Also most of these jobs went big business jobs, which means small businesses still are not getting the money to invest. USA Today had a nice article earlier this week on the Federal Government still hamstring banks on letting them do loans.

Remember when Bush created 200,000 jobs in a month and it was a lousy month... scratch

Oh ... the prelude to the Great Bush Depression.

No the aftermath of the Dems taking over the house in 2006, and worsening under the Dems Senate rule in 2008.
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Post  jcopetti Sun Apr 04, 2010 8:42 am

Scooby01_98 wrote:
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Scooby01_98 wrote:I find it funny the reports before the jobs report (when jobs estimated to be created was close to 300,000) it was 100,000 census worker, now since it is only 162,000 only 48,000 are census workers. Either way most of the workers are government workers (temporary ones at that). Which means the creation of real jobs is still lagging. Also most of these jobs went big business jobs, which means small businesses still are not getting the money to invest. USA Today had a nice article earlier this week on the Federal Government still hamstring banks on letting them do loans.

Remember when Bush created 200,000 jobs in a month and it was a lousy month... scratch

Oh ... the prelude to the Great Bush Depression.

No the aftermath of the Dems taking over the house in 2006, and worsening under the Dems Senate rule in 2008.

Good morning and Happy Easter to everyone. You know, many on the right wing fringe tend to have selective memory issues and always want to rewrite history. Trickle down and deregulation (republican core beliefs) led to the The Great Depression II.

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Post  floridafun Sun Apr 04, 2010 10:33 am

why are census jobs not considered jobs? if i get a job thru a temp service to work at edys, i am considered employed..right? my unemployment insurance well cease until i am let go from either. in todays climate isnt a temp job still a job..or is it just that a temp job under obamas watch isnt?
remember when bush changed the fast food job description to "production" work? so it looked like we had a whole lot more production work going on?
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Post  Scooby01_98 Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:13 am

jcopetti wrote:
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jcopetti wrote:
Scooby01_98 wrote:I find it funny the reports before the jobs report (when jobs estimated to be created was close to 300,000) it was 100,000 census worker, now since it is only 162,000 only 48,000 are census workers. Either way most of the workers are government workers (temporary ones at that). Which means the creation of real jobs is still lagging. Also most of these jobs went big business jobs, which means small businesses still are not getting the money to invest. USA Today had a nice article earlier this week on the Federal Government still hamstring banks on letting them do loans.

Remember when Bush created 200,000 jobs in a month and it was a lousy month... scratch

Oh ... the prelude to the Great Bush Depression.

No the aftermath of the Dems taking over the house in 2006, and worsening under the Dems Senate rule in 2008.

Good morning and Happy Easter to everyone. You know, many on the right wing fringe tend to have selective memory issues and always want to rewrite history. Trickle down and deregulation (republican core beliefs) led to the The Great Depression II.

Even Obama doesn't consider it a depression...adlib much?

The financial mess goes right back to Barney Frank (Dem) and Chris Dodd (Dem). Why do you think Dodd is not running for re-election? He can't even fool his own voters anymore.
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Post  Scooby01_98 Sun Apr 04, 2010 11:17 am

floridafun wrote:why are census jobs not considered jobs? if i get a job thru a temp service to work at edys, i am considered employed..right? my unemployment insurance well cease until i am let go from either. in todays climate isnt a temp job still a job..or is it just that a temp job under obamas watch isnt?
remember when bush changed the fast food job description to "production" work? so it looked like we had a whole lot more production work going on?

Oh they are real gov't jobs; just temporary. At least if you go to manpower or some other temp agency you have the chance of staying on, becoming permanent employees. Along with the fact that gov't produces nothing, so gov't jobs do not grow the economy. Where a temp worker for an industry is creating wealth, adding to the GDP of the nation.
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Post  Pez Mon Apr 05, 2010 9:29 am

LTRT wrote:Rather than spout off with some leftist rant about those who disagree with BHO, you might want to see the real picture.

Not as rosey as it appears.

Replacing the more than eight million jobs lost since the recession started likely will take much of the next decade. The economy needs to create at least 100,000 jobs a month just to keep the unemployment rate flat, due to population growth. Because of the downturn, millions of Americans quit searching for work or dropped out of the labor force. A broader measure of unemployment, which includes people who stopped looking for work and those settling for part-time jobs, rose to 16.9% in March

I wouldnt consider it rosy by any stretch, but I will take good news when I can get it, and on the whole, the most recent jobs report was better than expected. I do find it interesting that conservatives seem to be the only one expecting the recovery to take an unrealistically short time. 8 million jobs is a vast amount, and we are losing less and less.

The economy is recovering, and recovering slowly. Wether there are 48,000 or 100,000 census jobs is still an insignificant number of those that are unemployed. 8 million is roughly the population of Chicago.

My retirement account was off 38% at the worst of times, it's now off 1.73%...

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Post  Scooby01_98 Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:12 am

Pez wrote:
LTRT wrote:Rather than spout off with some leftist rant about those who disagree with BHO, you might want to see the real picture.

Not as rosey as it appears.

Replacing the more than eight million jobs lost since the recession started likely will take much of the next decade. The economy needs to create at least 100,000 jobs a month just to keep the unemployment rate flat, due to population growth. Because of the downturn, millions of Americans quit searching for work or dropped out of the labor force. A broader measure of unemployment, which includes people who stopped looking for work and those settling for part-time jobs, rose to 16.9% in March

I wouldnt consider it rosy by any stretch, but I will take good news when I can get it, and on the whole, the most recent jobs report was better than expected. I do find it interesting that conservatives seem to be the only one expecting the recovery to take an unrealistically short time. 8 million jobs is a vast amount, and we are losing less and less.

The economy is recovering, and recovering slowly. Wether there are 48,000 or 100,000 census jobs is still an insignificant number of those that are unemployed. 8 million is roughly the population of Chicago.

My retirement account was off 38% at the worst of times, it's now off 1.73%...

It's not that the numbers were not an improvement. It is more of the Dems saying the economy is improving at a good clip and there programs are working. However, when Bush was in office creating 300K jobs a month the Dems came out saying the economy was a bust even though unemployment was under 5%. The original estimate for jobs in March when they first came out was closer to 250K.

So really when you tout a 1 trillion dollar stimulus package (that really wasn't a stimulus package) and still have 9.7% unemployment and a third of the new jobs is a drag on the economy (gov't workers). Yeah I deserve the right to bad mouth this recovery and administration handling of the recovery.
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Post  LTRT Mon Apr 05, 2010 11:42 am

Scooby01_98 wrote:It's not that the numbers were not an improvement. It is more of the Dems saying the economy is improving at a good clip and there programs are working. However, when Bush was in office creating 300K jobs a month the Dems came out saying the economy was a bust even though unemployment was under 5%. The original estimate for jobs in March when they first came out was closer to 250K.

So really when you tout a 1 trillion dollar stimulus package (that really wasn't a stimulus package) and still have 9.7% unemployment and a third of the new jobs is a drag on the economy (gov't workers). Yeah I deserve the right to bad mouth this recovery and administration handling of the recovery.

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Post  LTRT Thu Apr 08, 2010 11:22 am

Initial jobless claims increase

"unexpectedly"??? time for a new word

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of newly laid-off workers seeking unemployment benefits rose last week, a sign that jobs remain scarce even as the economy recovers.

The Labor Department said Thursday that first-time claims increased by 18,000 in the week ending April 3, to a seasonally adjusted 460,000. That's worse than economists' estimates of a drop to 435,000, according to a survey by Thomson Reuters.

Obama to recast agenda to focus on jobs, deficit
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE60L4MC20100127

You lie!
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Post  Pez Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:12 pm

People get bent out of shape because of some spittle on the floor of a laundromat, thinking that people responsible should become more American... Like the people that shout YOU LIE, throwing bricks through windows, or shout nigger or faggot at legislators...

This saddens me.

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Post  LTRT Thu Apr 08, 2010 2:28 pm

Pez wrote:...or shout nigger or faggot at legislators...

People that get bent out of shape by RUMORS, show me the proof, even the Congressman himself will not say anything, because he knows it never happened, you think...

And once again the reminder...

Scooby01_98 wrote:It's not that the numbers were not an improvement. It is more of the Dems saying the economy is improving at a good clip and there programs are working. However, when Bush was in office creating 300K jobs a month the Dems came out saying the economy was a bust even though unemployment was under 5%. The original estimate for jobs in March when they first came out was closer to 250K.

So really when you tout a 1 trillion dollar stimulus package (that really wasn't a stimulus package) and still have 9.7% unemployment and a third of the new jobs is a drag on the economy (gov't workers). Yeah I deserve the right to bad mouth this recovery and administration handling of the recovery.

People that live in denial of reality...

This saddens me.
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Post  Pez Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:31 pm

Cmon man, he made an official statement about it and handed the matter over to police:

STATEMENT BY REV. CLEAVER: Many of the members of the CBC like John Lewis and Cleaver who worked in the civil rights movement, and Mr. Frank who has struggled in the cause of equality, this is not the first time they have been spit on before during turbulent times.

This afternoon, the Congressman was walking into the capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The Congressman would like to thank the capitol police officer who quickly escorted the other members and him into the capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care. After all the Members where safe, a full report was taken and the matter was handled by the capitol police. The man who spat on the Congressman was arrested, but the Congressman has chosen not to press charges. This is not the first time the Congressman has been called the “n” word and certainly not the worst assault he has endured in his years fighting for equal rights for all Americans. That being said, he is disappointed that in the 21st century our national discourse has devolved to the point of name calling and spitting. He looks forward to taking a historic vote on health care reform legislation tomorrow, for the residents of the Fifth District of Missouri and for all Americans. He believes deeply that tomorrow’s vote is, in fact, a vote for equality and to secure health care as a right for all. Our nation has a history of struggling each time we expand rights. Today’s protest are no different, but the Congressman believes it is worth fighting for.

So I have no idea what you are talking about when you say people are getting bent about rumors. If you are getting your news from the freerepublic blog you might draw the conclusion that he wont confirm it... I notice they are now saying his office issued the statement and not Emanuel himself... wtf is happening in this country when everyone becomes bman on one of his more frothy days... seriously... I cant believe anyone would defend these peoples activities. To what end are you trying to deny this incident took place, what do you propose to gain?

I have respect for you and your position, and would enjoy a chance to share a beer with you, but I have to say you are not thinking straight here.

And no one in the main is saying we are moving along at a fast clip and that this recovery is gangbusters... there are positive signs, sure, there are troubling signs, sure. But this business where conservative politicos want to construe that into "the democrats saying everything is rosey posey" is crap. No one is saying that. You are reading far right propaganda and spewing it here as your own research.

The centrist is dead.

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Post  LTRT Thu Apr 08, 2010 5:54 pm

Pez wrote:Cmon man, he made an official statement about it and handed the matter over to police:

STATEMENT BY REV. CLEAVER: Many of the members of the CBC like John Lewis and Cleaver who worked in the civil rights movement, and Mr. Frank who has struggled in the cause of equality, this is not the first time they have been spit on before during turbulent times.

This afternoon, the Congressman was walking into the capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The Congressman would like to thank the capitol police officer who quickly escorted the other members and him into the capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care. After all the Members where safe, a full report was taken and the matter was handled by the capitol police. The man who spat on the Congressman was arrested, but the Congressman has chosen not to press charges. This is not the first time the Congressman has been called the “n” word and certainly not the worst assault he has endured in his years fighting for equal rights for all Americans. That being said, he is disappointed that in the 21st century our national discourse has devolved to the point of name calling and spitting. He looks forward to taking a historic vote on health care reform legislation tomorrow, for the residents of the Fifth District of Missouri and for all Americans. He believes deeply that tomorrow’s vote is, in fact, a vote for equality and to secure health care as a right for all. Our nation has a history of struggling each time we expand rights. Today’s protest are no different, but the Congressman believes it is worth fighting for.

So I have no idea what you are talking about when you say people are getting bent about rumors. If you are getting your news from the freerepublic blog you might draw the conclusion that he wont confirm it... I notice they are now saying his office issued the statement and not Emanuel himself... wtf is happening in this country when everyone becomes bman on one of his more frothy days... seriously... I cant believe anyone would defend these peoples activities. To what end are you trying to deny this incident took place, what do you propose to gain?

I have respect for you and your position, and would enjoy a chance to share a beer with you, but I have to say you are not thinking straight here.

And no one in the main is saying we are moving along at a fast clip and that this recovery is gangbusters... there are positive signs, sure, there are troubling signs, sure. But this business where conservative politicos want to construe that into "the democrats saying everything is rosey posey" is crap. No one is saying that. You are reading far right propaganda and spewing it here as your own research.

The centrist is dead.

Cmon man, a statement by some Rev? Since you BELIEVE he was called the n-word, why has no one come forward on tv to authenticate it. Since this is a copy/paste from some print media doesn't help the cause. Furthermore, no one has said that I am defending any action like this. I am defending the blatant attempt from the left to discredit ANYONE who disagrees with the current admin and its policies as racist. The left has now begun to call every black tea-party supporter an uncle tom sellout. Surrounded by police as he walked into the Capitol, but once again no confirmation from those police officers.

No takers for $100k??

Read up on the facts


""the democrats saying everything is rosey posey" is crap." lol, that's why the Prez had to go out in campaign mode to sell the HC bill after it has passed?

We can agree to disagree on the Lewis fiasco, but no one and that I believe includes you, can disagree that the WH has created a 'change' it hadn't hoped for. Seems like the left forgot about how sick and tired the rest of us are.
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Post  Pez Fri Apr 09, 2010 7:57 am

By some Rev?... Rev. Cleaver's first name Is Emmanuel, his last name is Cleaver, He's otherwise known as the Congressman from Missouri. He was the one spit on. Have you eaten any good books lately? Very Happy As you know from your Link, "No Takers for $100k" This is mentioned in the sixth paragraph.

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Post  jcopetti Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:01 am

LTRT wrote:
Pez wrote:Cmon man, he made an official statement about it and handed the matter over to police:

STATEMENT BY REV. CLEAVER: Many of the members of the CBC like John Lewis and Cleaver who worked in the civil rights movement, and Mr. Frank who has struggled in the cause of equality, this is not the first time they have been spit on before during turbulent times.

This afternoon, the Congressman was walking into the capitol to vote, when one protester spat on him. The Congressman would like to thank the capitol police officer who quickly escorted the other members and him into the capitol, and defused the tense situation with professionalism and care. After all the Members where safe, a full report was taken and the matter was handled by the capitol police. The man who spat on the Congressman was arrested, but the Congressman has chosen not to press charges. This is not the first time the Congressman has been called the “n” word and certainly not the worst assault he has endured in his years fighting for equal rights for all Americans. That being said, he is disappointed that in the 21st century our national discourse has devolved to the point of name calling and spitting. He looks forward to taking a historic vote on health care reform legislation tomorrow, for the residents of the Fifth District of Missouri and for all Americans. He believes deeply that tomorrow’s vote is, in fact, a vote for equality and to secure health care as a right for all. Our nation has a history of struggling each time we expand rights. Today’s protest are no different, but the Congressman believes it is worth fighting for.

So I have no idea what you are talking about when you say people are getting bent about rumors. If you are getting your news from the freerepublic blog you might draw the conclusion that he wont confirm it... I notice they are now saying his office issued the statement and not Emanuel himself... wtf is happening in this country when everyone becomes bman on one of his more frothy days... seriously... I cant believe anyone would defend these peoples activities. To what end are you trying to deny this incident took place, what do you propose to gain?

I have respect for you and your position, and would enjoy a chance to share a beer with you, but I have to say you are not thinking straight here.

And no one in the main is saying we are moving along at a fast clip and that this recovery is gangbusters... there are positive signs, sure, there are troubling signs, sure. But this business where conservative politicos want to construe that into "the democrats saying everything is rosey posey" is crap. No one is saying that. You are reading far right propaganda and spewing it here as your own research.

The centrist is dead.

Cmon man, a statement by some Rev? Since you BELIEVE he was called the n-word, why has no one come forward on tv to authenticate it. Since this is a copy/paste from some print media doesn't help the cause. Furthermore, no one has said that I am defending any action like this. I am defending the blatant attempt from the left to discredit ANYONE who disagrees with the current admin and its policies as racist. The left has now begun to call every black tea-party supporter an uncle tom sellout. Surrounded by police as he walked into the Capitol, but once again no confirmation from those police officers.

No takers for $100k??

Read up on the facts


""the democrats saying everything is rosey posey" is crap." lol, that's why the Prez had to go out in campaign mode to sell the HC bill after it has passed?

We can agree to disagree on the Lewis fiasco, but no one and that I believe includes you, can disagree that the WH has created a 'change' it hadn't hoped for. Seems like the left forgot about how sick and tired the rest of us are.

It is people like LTRT that I tell my children to avoid and to learn from, so they are not bigots like this poster.

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Post  LTRT Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:11 am

jcopetti wrote:It is people like LTRT that I tell my children to avoid and to learn from, so they are not bigots like this poster.

Have we met outside of this board? I didn't think so, so for you to chime in with your personal insults and name calling shows everyone how inept you are to actually contributing something to this forum. Seems to me as we recall your minimal posts, that's all you've shared at this point, you might fit right in on the Huff Post.
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Post  Markwes Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:23 am

jcopetti wrote:It is people like LTRT that I tell my children to avoid and to learn from, so they are not bigots like this poster.
If I were you, I wouldn't worry about that. I'd be telling your kids to see what our government is doing, so they don't grow up spending more than they have like our government.
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Post  Scooby01_98 Sat Apr 10, 2010 2:35 pm

jcopetti wrote:
It is people like LTRT that I tell my children to avoid and to learn from, so they are not bigots like this poster.

Another insightful post by the peanut gallery.
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Post  floridafun Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:10 am

people that get bent out of shape by FACTS such as teabaggers yelling n**** within hearing of 4 elected officials (1 even a white boy!!) and then its called rumors by the liewing media who love the militant teabagger party and all their supporters..people that live in bitebart city in the nation of glennbeckistan sadden me...they really believe patriotism equals encouraging others to/fantasizing about committing acts of tyranny and think they are the TRUE americans. waay sad.
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Post  LTRT Wed Apr 14, 2010 10:38 am

Found a place where everyone will agree with you.

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