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Post  floridafun Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:25 pm

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Post  Guest Thu Sep 18, 2008 4:30 pm

Chuck Hagel: Palin isn't ready
Posted: Thursday, September 18, 2008 11:20 AM by Mark Murray
Filed Under: 2008, Security, Palin
From NBC's Mark Murray


In an interview with the Omaha World-Herald, Nebraska Sen. Chuck Hagel (R) suggested that Palin doesn't have the foreign-policy experience to be president. "'She doesn't have any foreign policy credentials,' Hagel said in an interview. 'You get a passport for the first time in your life last year? I mean, I don't know what you can say. You can't say anything.'"

Check out this other Hagel line: "'I think they ought to be just honest about it and stop the nonsense about, "I look out my window and I see Russia and so therefore I know something about Russia,"' he said. 'That kind of thing is insulting to the American people.'"

And this one: "'I think it's a stretch to, in any way, to say that she's got the experience to be president of the United States,' Hagel said."
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Post  Guest Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:31 pm

Palin's transparency proposal already exists in D.C.

CEDAR RAPIDS, Iowa (CNN) – Sarah Palin likes to tell voters around the country about how she “put the government checkbook online” in Alaska. On Thursday, Palin suggested she would take that same proposal to Washington.

“We’re going to do a few new things also,” she said at a rally in Cedar Rapids. “For instance, as Alaska’s governor, I put the government’s checkbook online so that people can see where their money’s going. We’ll bring that kind of transparency, that responsibility, and accountability back. We’re going to bring that back to D.C.”

There’s just one problem with proposing to put the federal checkbook online – somebody’s already done it. His name is Barack Obama.

In 2006 and 2007, Obama teamed up with Republican Sen. Tom Coburn to pass the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act, also known as “Google for Government.” The act created a free, searchable web site – USASpending.gov — that discloses to the public all federal grants, contracts, loans and insurance payments.

In June of this year, Obama and Coburn introduced new Senate legislation to expand the information available online to include details on earmarks, competitive bidding, criminal activities, audit disputes and other government information.

Palin might also have noted that her running mate, John McCain, was an original co-sponsor of the 2006 transparency bill that became law.

UPDATE: A campaign spokesperson insisted that Palin was referring not to that specific proposal, but rather to "that kind of transparency in general."

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Post  floridafun Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:59 pm

like the tranparency of her gov job in alaska. oops that silly troopergate thing. now that nobody is willing to go in and tell their version...it looks like any future efforts to just get at the freaking truth will wind up not producing any action until NOVEMBER! wow now thats a transparent stonewall!
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Post  floridafun Sat Sep 20, 2008 2:08 pm

the good news is there have been enough statements made prior to the cut-off of new testimony...the investigation continues and should be done in october..maybe oct 1.....YAY!!!
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Post  Guest Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:08 pm

floridafun wrote:the good news is there have been enough statements made prior to the cut-off of new testimony...the investigation continues and should be done in october..maybe oct 1.....YAY!!!

Shame on people for demanding to know the facts about their candidates for the highest office in the land. The audacity of the people to demand answers ... we just want facts.
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Post  LTRT Sat Sep 20, 2008 6:26 pm

Bman wrote:Shame on people for demanding to know the facts about their candidates for the highest office in the land. The audacity of the people to demand answers ... we just want facts.

Wright, Ayers and Rezko are 3 names that come to mind, but no need to respond, you've spun us enough we're all dizzy.
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Post  floridafun Sat Sep 20, 2008 9:34 pm

if when he announced his presidential run, obama had been under investigation for abuse of power with the approval of 8 people of his own party and 4 of the opposing party..i doubt the dem party woulda coulda shut down and covered up all pertaining to the investigation.

do the neocons not want to know the facts about how she did her job as gov?? dont think it matters??
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Post  Guest Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:41 pm

I think this is an interesting read.

Inside Today's Bulletin
Alaska Legislature Breaks Own Rules Pursuing Palin
By Judge Joseph W. Miller, For The Bulletin
09/22/2008
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By now, most of the country has heard about "Troopergate" and Gov. Palin's related conflict with several powerful members of the Alaska legislature. This conflict arises, in part, out of a legislative investigation into media allegations that Gov. Sarah Palin removed the state's commissioner of public safety because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, a state trooper. As the lead attorney for one of two Troopergate lawsuits filed in Alaska yesterday morning, I am convinced that this legislative investigation is blatantly unlawful.

First, a little background on the investigation is in order. According to the Department of Public Safety, the trooper in question used a department-issued Taser on the governor's 10-year-old nephew, operated his marked squad car while drinking alcohol, illegally shot a moose cow and was subject to a domestic violence restraining order. He also allegedly threatened to make Mrs. Palin's father "eat a f------g lead bullet." Despite these findings and allegations, this trooper has not been fired. Amazingly, he is currently stationed in the governor's home community.

Although most of us would probably agree that such a rogue trooper should not remain on the force, the ex-commissioner himself stated to the Anchorage Daily News on Aug. 30, 2008, that "[f]or the record, no one ever said fire [the trooper]. Not the governor. Not Todd [Palin]. Not any of the other staff ... ." Even in the face of this very public admission, the legislative investigation drives blindly on.

Undercutting the investigation further, recently disclosed communications between the governor's office and the former commissioner transparently reflect that the real reason he was removed from his position was due to his insubordinate refusal to implement the governor's budgetary and fiscal policies. For example, on Dec. 6, 2007, the commissioner called a press conference in support of his expansive budgetary plan, a plan that was directly at odds with the governor's policies. Two months later, he released a letter to the governor advocating for additional funds for items that the governor previously vetoed.

Despite warnings, this at-will political appointee continued to work outside of the governor's budgetary vision for the state. His insubordination culminated with a planned July visit to the congressional delegation in Washington, designed to secure funding for a program that the governor had not yet approved. Shortly thereafter, the governor offered the commissioner another position in the administration, but he chose to resign instead.

And yet the investigation continues. Fueled by the partisan legislator at its helm, this investigation has morphed into a political circus. Almost weekly, the lead legislator makes a statement prejudging the outcome of the supposedly neutral investigation. He has mentioned that the investigation could lead to impeachment, has declared that the investigation's conclusion "[i]s likely to be damaging to the governor's administration," and has shortened the term of the investigation to facilitate a late "October surprise" - right before the election. This legislator directs the investigation to its very detail, even dictating which witnesses will be interviewed.

To make matters worse, the legislative director, as well as his nominal investigator, both have personal connections to the former commissioner. The legislator worked directly (and publicly) with the commissioner to circumvent the governor's budgetary plans. He expressed his "anger" when the commissioner lost his job. And his investigator's wife used to work for the commissioner.

Biased investigators who have made up their minds at the outset of an investigation cannot be trusted to conduct an investigation fairly. Such an approach violates the due process guarantees of the Alaska Constitution that ensure "the right of all persons to fair and just treatment" in the course of investigations. Additionally, the broad grant of authority to legislature's investigator to look into "potential abuses of power and/or improper actions by members of the executive branch" lacks any meaningful restriction and violates the separation of powers.

Finally, the investigation itself is being conducted through Alaska's Legislative Council, an administrative committee created by statute to provide "technical assistance in accomplishing the research, reporting, bill drafting, and examination and revision of statutes, and general administrative services essential to the development of sound legislation." How the legislature believes it is empowered to investigate the governor under this statute stretches the imagination.

The Alaska Personnel Board is the only body that Alaska law expressly empowers to investigate ethical malfeasance by the executive branch. As complaints by both the governor herself and the state troopers' union are before it, the matter should be resolved there, out-of-site of the national political scene and out-of-reach of partisan investigators.

Joseph W. Miller is an attorney in Fairbanks, Alaska. He is a former U.S. Magistrate Judge, state judicial officer, and decorated Gulf War Veteran (B.S., United States Military Academy; J.D., Yale Law School; M.S., Resource Economics, University of Alaska). A copy of Mr. Miller's complaint may be found at www.palinfightscorruption.com.
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Post  Guest Tue Sep 23, 2008 9:40 am

Vis wrote:I think this is an interesting read.

Inside Today's Bulletin
Alaska Legislature Breaks Own Rules Pursuing Palin
By Judge Joseph W. Miller, For The Bulletin
09/22/2008
email this storyEmail to a friendpost a commentPost a Commentprinter friendlyPrinter-friendly


By now, most of the country has heard about "Troopergate" and Gov. Palin's related conflict with several powerful members of the Alaska legislature. This conflict arises, in part, out of a legislative investigation into media allegations that Gov. Sarah Palin removed the state's commissioner of public safety because he refused to fire her ex-brother-in-law, a state trooper. As the lead attorney for one of two Troopergate lawsuits filed in Alaska yesterday morning, I am convinced that this legislative investigation is blatantly unlawful.

First, a little background on the investigation is in order. According to the Department of Public Safety, the trooper in question used a department-issued Taser on the governor's 10-year-old nephew, operated his marked squad car while drinking alcohol, illegally shot a moose cow and was subject to a domestic violence restraining order. He also allegedly threatened to make Mrs. Palin's father "eat a f------g lead bullet." Despite these findings and allegations, this trooper has not been fired. Amazingly, he is currently stationed in the governor's home community.

Although most of us would probably agree that such a rogue trooper should not remain on the force, the ex-commissioner himself stated to the Anchorage Daily News on Aug. 30, 2008, that "[f]or the record, no one ever said fire [the trooper]. Not the governor. Not Todd [Palin]. Not any of the other staff ... ." Even in the face of this very public admission, the legislative investigation drives blindly on.

Undercutting the investigation further, recently disclosed communications between the governor's office and the former commissioner transparently reflect that the real reason he was removed from his position was due to his insubordinate refusal to implement the governor's budgetary and fiscal policies. For example, on Dec. 6, 2007, the commissioner called a press conference in support of his expansive budgetary plan, a plan that was directly at odds with the governor's policies. Two months later, he released a letter to the governor advocating for additional funds for items that the governor previously vetoed.

Despite warnings, this at-will political appointee continued to work outside of the governor's budgetary vision for the state. His insubordination culminated with a planned July visit to the congressional delegation in Washington, designed to secure funding for a program that the governor had not yet approved. Shortly thereafter, the governor offered the commissioner another position in the administration, but he chose to resign instead.

And yet the investigation continues. Fueled by the partisan legislator at its helm, this investigation has morphed into a political circus. Almost weekly, the lead legislator makes a statement prejudging the outcome of the supposedly neutral investigation. He has mentioned that the investigation could lead to impeachment, has declared that the investigation's conclusion "[i]s likely to be damaging to the governor's administration," and has shortened the term of the investigation to facilitate a late "October surprise" - right before the election. This legislator directs the investigation to its very detail, even dictating which witnesses will be interviewed.

To make matters worse, the legislative director, as well as his nominal investigator, both have personal connections to the former commissioner. The legislator worked directly (and publicly) with the commissioner to circumvent the governor's budgetary plans. He expressed his "anger" when the commissioner lost his job. And his investigator's wife used to work for the commissioner.

Biased investigators who have made up their minds at the outset of an investigation cannot be trusted to conduct an investigation fairly. Such an approach violates the due process guarantees of the Alaska Constitution that ensure "the right of all persons to fair and just treatment" in the course of investigations. Additionally, the broad grant of authority to legislature's investigator to look into "potential abuses of power and/or improper actions by members of the executive branch" lacks any meaningful restriction and violates the separation of powers.

Finally, the investigation itself is being conducted through Alaska's Legislative Council, an administrative committee created by statute to provide "technical assistance in accomplishing the research, reporting, bill drafting, and examination and revision of statutes, and general administrative services essential to the development of sound legislation." How the legislature believes it is empowered to investigate the governor under this statute stretches the imagination.

The Alaska Personnel Board is the only body that Alaska law expressly empowers to investigate ethical malfeasance by the executive branch. As complaints by both the governor herself and the state troopers' union are before it, the matter should be resolved there, out-of-site of the national political scene and out-of-reach of partisan investigators.

Joseph W. Miller is an attorney in Fairbanks, Alaska. He is a former U.S. Magistrate Judge, state judicial officer, and decorated Gulf War Veteran (B.S., United States Military Academy; J.D., Yale Law School; M.S., Resource Economics, University of Alaska). A copy of Mr. Miller's complaint may be found at www.palinfightscorruption.com.


LOL ... interesting????? A lawyer trying to win his case in the public forum.
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Post  floridafun Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:18 am

vis the thing is...this reason given (the first two reasons are no longer mentioned by her or the neocon lawyers) for the commissioners termination wasnt created until after the neocon lawyers took over her gov office, after she was named veep nominee.

just as her staunch determination to completely cooperate with the legislative investigation changed completely after the neocon lawyers took over her gov office.

just as there was never ANY question from her about whether the legislative branch was the proper group to do the investigation until the neocon lawyers took over her gov office.

she was the only person who made the complaint about the threat to her dad..supposedly someone told her they heard about it is her reason for the complaint..but nobody could be found who would attest to having heard it.

this commentary is simply the newest revamped version of facts AFTER all was revised by the neocon lawyers who took over her gov office. its not surprising to me its the version you opt to think is the valid version.
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