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Post  Guest Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:19 pm

Damn, I guess I love this woman. I might have to set the DVR to start recording The View.

McCain gets grilled on The View
Posted: 01:36 PM ET

From CNN Ticker Producer Alexander Mooney


Sen. John McCain was a guest on 'The View' Friday.
(CNN) – When John McCain agreed to appear on the day-time talk fest known as The View, he may not have been expecting too many hard-hitting questions.

But the Arizona senator was aggressively pressed on VP candidate Sarah Palin's qualifications to be vice president, as well as his new negative campaign ads that several independent fact-checks have called downright misleading.

Co-host Barbara Walters immediately asked McCain about a remark he’d made that Palin might just be the most "marvelous running mate" ever, asking, "that's not a little strong?"

"We politicians are never given to exaggerations or hyperbole, as you know," McCain joked, before praising Palin as the most "popular governor in America" and one who has united a "spark in America."

Walters went on to press Palin's reformist credentials, noting McCain has served in Washington for more than two decades and asking repeatedly, "who's she going to reform, you?"

McCain began to answer by saying Democrats have held control of Congress for two years, before Walters quickly interrupted: “But tell me who she is going to reform — we aren't talking about the economy, we're not talking about housing, she was chosen to reform, who is she going to reform?"

"The Democrat Party, the Republican Party, even an independent," McCain said, appearing somewhat frustrated, "She'll reform all of Washington."

"How? What will she do," Walters appearing somewhat exasperated said. "What is she going to reform specifically, senator?"


McCain said Palin had a strong record on vetoing earmark spending. "The fact is she was a reform governor, she took on an incumbent governor of her own party and defeated him. She sold the airplane and fired the chef –" he began.

"She sold the airplane at a loss," an unrelenting Walters interrupted.

McCain was later pressed on the increasingly derisive tone of the campaign, and his new television commercial that carries the widely discredited claim Obama supported comprehensive sex education of kindergarteners as an Illinois state senator.

McCain defended the ad’s claims, as well as those of a Web ad that said Obama’s “Lipstick on a Pig” comments were directed at Palin. He added that if Obama had agreed to a series of townhalls he’d proposed, the tone of the campaign might have been more amicable.

"If we had done what I asked Senator Obama to do, I don't think you'd see the same tenor of this campaign," he said. “Why don't you ask Obama the next time he's on this show why won't he be in town meetings with me?"

"You bring us Sarah Palin and we'll ask Obama," Walters quipped.
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Post  Markwes Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:33 pm

Holy crap! Who is running for president, McCain or Palin?
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Post  Guest Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:42 pm

Markwes, Barbara Walters had an affair with a Black senator, ya think that has anything to do with her hard pressing McCain on lies, and fabrications?

The fact that McCain used "well he didn't do the town hall meetings so we did this" excuse is pathetic.

You Go Girls!
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Post  Canuck Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:46 pm

meta4 wrote:
You Go Girls!
Meta, I hope you had your pom poms when you typed this line. lol!
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Post  Markwes Fri Sep 12, 2008 4:55 pm

Canuck wrote:
meta4 wrote:
You Go Girls!
Meta, I hope you had your pom poms when you typed this line. lol!
I think I heard that line while watching The Birdcage last night. But I digress...

Meta, I think the townhall comment was just saying if Obama had agreed to it, the questions raised in McCain's ads could have been answered by the man himself. I'm surely not a fan of negative campaigning, but his comment on the show is certainly reasonable IMO.
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Post  Guest Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:13 pm

Really???? It is ok to lie and fabricate ads and stories because you opponent would not play your game? Had we done the 3 town hall meetings each week Obama would have had less time to spend in key pink / purple states i.e. Indiana, Virgina etc ... McCain knows he needs every chance he can get for Obama to stumble since this is a change election. McCain might say he is the candidate of change but the American people are smarter than that though.

Seriously ... you can accept and justify someone telling lies if the other party does not participate in your game? Wow is all I can say. I can never justify going negative WITH lies in a campaign. Guess that tells us in all reality the type of character John McCain really exemplifies.
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Post  Guest Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:42 pm

Markwes wrote:
I think I heard that line while watching The Birdcage last night. But I digress...

Meta, I think the townhall comment was just saying if Obama had agreed to it, the questions raised in McCain's ads could have been answered by the man himself. I'm surely not a fan of negative campaigning, but his comment on the show is certainly reasonable IMO.

I liked Birdcage. Didn't Nathan Lane do the voiceovers for several Disney movies?

I didn't want to jab anyone today but, Ok man, if that's how you want to play it...

Can you use 'amicable' in a grammatically correct sentence written in English? Hint: refer to the definition of the word and not necessarily the context in which John McCain used the word.

When you say "the townhall comment was saying". Comments don't make comments. Comments don't even 'say' anything, comment is a noun. Comments are said by McCain, who said 'amicable'. It seems you assume most people don't even care about the WORDS that are SAID, they are going to believe what they want to believe, no matter what is SAID nor which WORDS are used.

Lipstick on a pig is a phrase that has been used several times by several politicians in the last few years. When Dick Cheney says it, he's talking about Kerry. When John McCain says it, he's referring to Hillary Clinton's health plan. When Barak Obama says it, he's referring to a sexy female VP candidate.

Why the double standard? Does it seem reasonable to you that when Obama says it, he is referring to nothing other than Sarah Palin? Is it because she used the word "lipstick" within the last 10 days?? I don't buy that. You're trying to bullshit your way through spinning this weak shit.

If anything, I would think Obama's lipstick comment was a jab at McCain in jest response on behalf of Hillary, instead of maligning Palin's femininity. Even if it wasn't, it's funny to hear Palin say she's ready to take on the responsibilities of President (if that should happen) when she can't even fire a Librarian as Mayor, nor a State Trooper as Governor, and she needs to get "big papa" to back her up when someone calls her a name...

At least he didn't make up some sorry ass lie and try to sell it in a campaign ad...
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Post  Guest Fri Sep 12, 2008 5:50 pm

What a joke Barbera... both parties are running on the platform of Change/Reform... guess that means she's going to try and rough up BO on her show eh? What am I saying, she won't have him on, unless it's to suck him off (though I think Bman has that covered still).

I'm not really seeing where the hard hitting questions are, but I'm glad this gets the lefty's skirts up, they need something to cheer about.. lord knows their party isn't doing anything to get them excited about their own candidate lately.
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Post  floridafun Sat Sep 13, 2008 2:39 am

the hard hitting questions were, and i am among many women who appreciated the questions:
1. do you believe is separation of church and state-school prayer etc.
2. supreme court justices you want--look to strike down roe v wade? (he does, said the states can make up their own guidelines on it..then whoopie asked if she needs to be concerned about being returned to slavery since he also said he wants justices that he thinks will interpret the constitution exactly as it was intended when written..he said good point and good question but never answered her)
3. obama wants early childhood education age appropriate..stranger danger for kindergarten..is that sex ed?
4. why the confirming palen statements which are proven to be lies? he thinks none were.
5. on the accusations about the lipstick on a pig from obama..he couldnt answer how it was ok for him to use it about hillarys health care plan but obama couldnt use it about mccains brand of change and hope..except to say obama is sneaky in how he uses his words.
6. discussed whether he agrees with palin on no abortion even in rape cases. he agrees.
7. the discussion of why he chose sarah..because she is a reformer. they did want to know what will she be reforming. everything.
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Post  Markwes Sat Sep 13, 2008 12:15 pm

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I didn't want to jab anyone today but, Ok man, if that's how you want to play it...

Can you use 'amicable' in a grammatically correct sentence written in English? Hint: refer to the definition of the word and not necessarily the context in which John McCain used the word.

When you say "the townhall comment was saying". Comments don't make comments. Comments don't even 'say' anything, comment is a noun. Comments are said by McCain, who said 'amicable'. It seems you assume most people don't even care about the WORDS that are SAID, they are going to believe what they want to believe, no matter what is SAID nor which WORDS are used.
Thread monitor AND English professor. Is there anything you can't do? Apparently, you DID want to take a jab.
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Post  Scooby01_98 Sat Sep 13, 2008 1:12 pm

floridafun wrote:the hard hitting questions were, and i am among many women who appreciated the questions:
1. do you believe is separation of church and state-school prayer etc.
2. supreme court justices you want--look to strike down roe v wade? (he does, said the states can make up their own guidelines on it..then whoopie asked if she needs to be concerned about being returned to slavery since he also said he wants justices that he thinks will interpret the constitution exactly as it was intended when written..he said good point and good question but never answered her)
3. obama wants early childhood education age appropriate..stranger danger for kindergarten..is that sex ed?
4. why the confirming palen statements which are proven to be lies? he thinks none were.
5. on the accusations about the lipstick on a pig from obama..he couldnt answer how it was ok for him to use it about hillarys health care plan but obama couldnt use it about mccains brand of change and hope..except to say obama is sneaky in how he uses his words.
6. discussed whether he agrees with palin on no abortion even in rape cases. he agrees.
7. the discussion of why he chose sarah..because she is a reformer. they did want to know what will she be reforming. everything.

I would be more afraid of the "liberal court" that is the one that gutted the fifth amendment property rights. While your so called "Conservative court" is the one that ruled the detainees in Gitmo get a trial.

I would be more worried about the county council here in Allen county taking away womens reproductive rights than I would a supreme court whether liberal or conservative.
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I loved that line when he was asked about his ads that are totally false and if he does indeed approve this ad ... and his response was "have you seen some of his ads". lol Specifically I would like to know which Obama ads he was referring too, seems EVERYONE is outraged at the level of the McCain lies.
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Post  floridafun Sun Sep 14, 2008 10:37 am

and he wants justices that will interpret the constitution as it was written and intended by the founders...whoopie asks if she should prepare to be a slave because there was language addressing it in the original constitution...he says good question but never gives her an answer LOL!! and the answer would actually be, according to the constitution as it was written, would be women and blacks cant vote or hold political office or won anything, they are chattel property. affraid
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Post  Scooby01_98 Sun Sep 14, 2008 11:49 am

So you're just going to ignore the admendments to the constitution that change those items. Stupid remark by whoopie. Of course I suppose as liberals you're used to ignoring the constitution or ignorant of the constitution in general.
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Post  Guest Sun Sep 14, 2008 6:48 pm

Scooby01_98 wrote:So you're just going to ignore the admendments to the constitution that change those items. Stupid remark by whoopie. Of course I suppose as liberals you're used to ignoring the constitution or ignorant of the constitution in general.

You really mean that after 7 years of Bush ripping the constitution to shreds? Your comment is lame.
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Post  floridafun Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:56 am

[quote="Bman"]
Scooby01_98 wrote:So you're just going to ignore the admendments to the constitution that change those items. Stupid remark by whoopie. Of course I suppose as liberals you're used to ignoring the constitution or ignorant of the constitution in general.

the constitution as it was written by the founders. of course liberals completely ignore the constitution...in the minds of neocons and religious riters. seems to me you met what you thought was a stupid comment with a pretty stupid one. Basketball
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Post  Guest Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:37 am

Markwes wrote:
meta4 wrote:
I didn't want to jab anyone today but, Ok man, if that's how you want to play it...

Can you use 'amicable' in a grammatically correct sentence written in English? Hint: refer to the definition of the word and not necessarily the context in which John McCain used the word.

When you say "the townhall comment was saying". Comments don't make comments. Comments don't even 'say' anything, comment is a noun. Comments are said by McCain, who said 'amicable'. It seems you assume most people don't even care about the WORDS that are SAID, they are going to believe what they want to believe, no matter what is SAID nor which WORDS are used.
Thread monitor AND English professor. Is there anything you can't do? Apparently, you DID want to take a jab.

Thanks for taking time to make a pointless post. It's a shame you wouldn't allow me to be more amicable. Using the same logic as McCain, "you're fault" because you chose not to debate. Smile
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Post  floridafun Mon Sep 15, 2008 10:57 am

rove playbook 101

the only answer you should give to questions or criticisms is a question or criticism directed at the other party.
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Post  Guest Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:04 am

floridafun wrote:rove playbook 101

the only answer you should give to questions or criticisms is a question or criticism directed at the other party.

And another great example of a Rove-book play is to give a slackwristed response like McCain's "amicable" comment while your constituents imagine what they wish McCain would have said, then attaching that meaning behind the original quote Ex Post Facto.

Markwes wrote:Meta, I think the townhall comment was just saying if Obama had agreed to it, the questions raised in McCain's ads could have been answered by the man himself. I'm surely not a fan of negative campaigning, but his comment on the show is certainly reasonable IMO.

Stupid me, I guess they taught me in school to "say what you mean and mean what you say". Rolling Eyes
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Post  Markwes Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:17 am

floridafun wrote:rove playbook 101

the only answer you should give to questions or criticisms is a question or criticism directed at the other party.
The Markwes playbook says I don't argue with people that talk down to me. Geesh, what is with you people? I'm not a McCain "constituent", so stop labeling me. I don't watch girly shows like The View so I was just going by what Bman posted and mentioned what I think McCain meant. You did notice that I used the words "I think" right? Rolling Eyes
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Post  Guest Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:24 am

Markwes wrote:
floridafun wrote:rove playbook 101

the only answer you should give to questions or criticisms is a question or criticism directed at the other party.
The Markwes playbook says I don't argue with people that talk down to me. Geesh, what is with you people? I'm not a McCain "constituent", so stop labeling me. I don't watch girly shows like The View so I was just going by what Bman posted and mentioned what I think McCain meant. You did notice that I used the words "I think" right? Rolling Eyes

Ok, now that is some funny shit. If ANYONE on this board tries to interrupt what someone said you should get called out on it. If I said ... "I think Barack Obama meant that Rev. Wright really said this in his sermon ..." I would have been called out on it. We all heard what McCain said, no reason to try to read anything in to it. Hell, The View ripped McCain to shreds, pretty funny if you ask me. It took his wife to come out and say how many houses they have is not the issue. That was her best come back ... don't knock my wealth, I love my $300,000 outfit I wore to the convention.

But now I am glad that we have Markwes here from now on to interrupt for us the comments made by McCain, we don't need Fox news to spin it for us now, we have Mark.
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Post  Markwes Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:40 am

Well, can't argue with that, can I? Enjoy your little group hug and support group. Adios.
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Post  Guest Mon Sep 15, 2008 11:57 am

Markwes wrote:Well, can't argue with that, can I? Enjoy your little group hug and support group. Adios.

Oh and everyone has not been rough on everyone else? If this is a group hug in here I ain't feelin' the love.
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Post  Guest Mon Sep 15, 2008 12:09 pm

Bman wrote:Oh and everyone has not been rough on everyone else?

Maybe others have a tougher time understanding the "mask" that an anonymous message board affords, i.e. The difference between the IRL persona and online persona. Even though we know Doe-gturd is probably much worse in person than online, I genuinely doubt that from Markwes. I try to aim my comments at the logic and rhetoric, not the person. Just sayin'

Next time, pack a lunch and guard it... 'cause if I get hungry I might eat it. Very Happy
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