Hypothetical Question

If Sarah Palin had served on a board, launched her political career in the house of, and was just "friendly" with someone who bombed/threated to bomb abortion clinics 20 years ago, would the Obama Thumpers on here (and you know who you are) give her a pass too like they do Obama with William Ayers?

Just wondering...

20 years ago to get rid of the war maybe threaten is all sure

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:If Sarah Palin had served on a board, launched her political career in the house of, and was just "friendly" with someone who bombed/threated to bomb abortion clinics 20 years ago, would the Obama Thumpers on here (and you know who you are) give her a pass too like they do Obama with William Ayers?

Just wondering...

1) Obama did not "launch" his political career from William Ayers home. OK ... that is a fact. William Ayers a fellow professor at the same university where Barack Obama taught and who lives in the same neighborhood as Barack Obama hosted a tea for the neighborhood.

2) The question should be if William Ayers is SOOOOOOOO bad why was he asked to serve on a board of directors of a not-for-profit which included both republicans and democrats.

3) If William Ayers is sooooooo bad why is he a professor at The University?

4) Finally, I am sure you and Sarah both know people who would LOVE to blow up abortion clinics.

Bman wrote:4) Finally, I am sure you and Sarah both know people who would LOVE to blow up abortion clinics.

Negative Bman. I certainly do not. Watch out for that line.

Bman wrote:
1) Obama did not "launch" his political career from William Ayers home. OK ... that is a fact. William Ayers a fellow professor at the same university where Barack Obama taught and who lives in the same neighborhood as Barack Obama hosted a tea for the neighborhood.

Wow! Maybe I have this William Ayers guy wrong. He hosted a "tea party." That's awfully manly of him.

20 years ago I hung out with a guy that ended up killing his parents and running away to Europe... I hope you guys dont think less of me...

pez wrote:20 years ago I hung out with a guy that ended up killing his parents and running away to Europe... I hope you guys dont think less of me...

I dunno man, "going forward" you're on my community watch list. Oh, and I called all your neighbors and neighborhood crime watch volunteers and gave them your full dossier, just to be safe.

Sorry dude.

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:If Sarah Palin had served on a board, launched her political career in the house of, and was just "friendly" with someone who bombed/threated to bomb abortion clinics 20 years ago, would the Obama Thumpers on here (and you know who you are) give her a pass too like they do Obama with William Ayers?

Just wondering...

how about if she chose to run as a veep for a prez candidate who not only has a relationship with former extreme anti-choice activist Paul Schenck, but
(and this is a copy/paste from a few different sources..which i have posted here before...just so i am not vilified like hh was...)

– Voted against making anti-choice violence a federal crime. As the Jed Report notes, McCain voted in 1993 and 1994 against making “bombings, arson and blockades at abortion clinics, and shootings and threats of violence against doctors and nurses who perform abortions” federal crimes.

– Opposing Colorado’s “Bubble Law.” McCain said he opposed Colorado’s “Bubble Law,” which prohibited abortion protesters from getting within 8 feet of women entering clinics [Denver Post, 2/27/00]. The law was later upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

– Voted to allow those fined for violence at clinics to avoid penalties by declaring bankruptcy. NARAL Pro-Chioce America notes that McCain “voted to allow perpetrators of violence or harassment at reproductive-health clinics to avoid paying the fines assessed against them for their illegal acts by declaring bankruptcy.”

allowing people to harass women on their way in or out of a health clinic is absurd. How would these people feel if their right to attend the church of their choice were challenged? How would they react to angry cries and shouts at them for exercising their civil rights?

Anti-abortion protesters who hound and harass women are TERRORISTS. Anti-abortion MURDERERS who target and kill doctors are TERRORISTS. Randall Terry and “Operation Rescue” are TERRORISTS.

floridafun wrote:allowing people to harass women on their way in or out of a health clinic is absurd. How would these people feel if their right to attend the church of their choice were challenged? How would they react to angry cries and shouts at them for exercising their civil rights?

I guess the difference is that people who go to church are going there to peacefully assemble and worship. People who go into abortion clinics are going there to have a murder committed. Nice try though.

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:If Sarah Palin had served on a board, launched her political career in the house of, and was just "friendly" with someone who bombed/threated to bomb abortion clinics 20 years ago, would the Obama Thumpers on here (and you know who you are) give her a pass too like they do Obama with William Ayers?

Just wondering...

Look... another Ayers conspiracy leg humper...

Considering your question (a lame attempt at bashing Obama) doesn't actually address his history, it all seems pretty pointless to even answer it.

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

floridafun wrote:allowing people to harass women on their way in or out of a health clinic is absurd. How would these people feel if their right to attend the church of their choice were challenged? How would they react to angry cries and shouts at them for exercising their civil rights?

I guess the difference is that people who go to church are going there to peacefully assemble and worship. People who go into abortion clinics are going there to have a murder committed. Nice try though.

No I disagree Cincy ... many of those people walking into church would love to see an abortion clinic bombed so that makes them have blood on their hands too.

Secondly ... if you don't want harassed walking into church to privately worship the God of your choice then respect others making a private decision between them, their family and their God.

I say we just bomb the fuck out of all churches and make the world a better place.

Jugomugo wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:If Sarah Palin had served on a board, launched her political career in the house of, and was just "friendly" with someone who bombed/threated to bomb abortion clinics 20 years ago, would the Obama Thumpers on here (and you know who you are) give her a pass too like they do Obama with William Ayers?

Just wondering...

Look... another Ayers conspiracy leg humper...

Considering your question (a lame attempt at bashing Obama) doesn't actually address his history, it all seems pretty pointless to even answer it.

Look, another lib who won't answer a direct question...

Bman wrote:No I disagree Cincy ... many of those people walking into church would love to see an abortion clinic bombed so that makes them have blood on their hands too.

Really Bman? Are you out surveying these people as they're walking into church, or are you just making poor ASSumptions again??? Do you have any stats to back you up?

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

Bman wrote:No I disagree Cincy ... many of those people walking into church would love to see an abortion clinic bombed so that makes them have blood on their hands too.

Really Bman? Are you out surveying these people as they're walking into church, or are you just making poor ASSumptions again??? Do you have any stats to back you up?

No more facts than you have knowing that Obama is "friendly" (your word there) with terrorist Bill Ayers. I have surveyed one evangeliban and he said he supports bombing abortion clinics ... therefore I can make that leap just like you made the leap having a neighborhood tea in your house constitutes advising the next President on policy decision.

Bman wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

Bman wrote:No I disagree Cincy ... many of those people walking into church would love to see an abortion clinic bombed so that makes them have blood on their hands too.

Really Bman? Are you out surveying these people as they're walking into church, or are you just making poor ASSumptions again??? Do you have any stats to back you up?

No more facts than you have knowing that Obama is "friendly" (your word there) with terrorist Bill Ayers. I have surveyed one evangeliban and he said he supports bombing abortion clinics ... therefore I can make that leap just like you made the leap having a neighborhood tea in your house constitutes advising the next President on policy decision.

Hah...the "friendly" term comes from Obama's own camp. I'm just repeating their word because that's how they classified it.

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

Jugomugo wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:If Sarah Palin had served on a board, launched her political career in the house of, and was just "friendly" with someone who bombed/threated to bomb abortion clinics 20 years ago, would the Obama Thumpers on here (and you know who you are) give her a pass too like they do Obama with William Ayers?

Just wondering...

Look... another Ayers conspiracy leg humper...

Considering your question (a lame attempt at bashing Obama) doesn't actually address his history, it all seems pretty pointless to even answer it.

Look, another lib who won't answer a direct question...

Jugo, Leg humper >>

Cincy, really man. This issue is not relevant to this election. Despite all attempts to stick it to Bman, don't you think this line is getting tired? I mean I realize there's a time and a place to beat the drum for this issue but as it's been presented several times over, voiced by supporters, isn't it about time it's mileage has been reached in this forum?

I respect your view, but there comes a time when it you have to wrap it up and put it in the 'fridge for a day when the issue is current and applicable and well... appropriate.

Here's the stump question for the hypothetical... do you think this thread will get more views/posts after the election?

Bman wrote:I have surveyed one evangeliban and he said he supports bombing abortion clinics ... therefore I can make that leap just like you made the leap having a neighborhood tea in your house constitutes advising the next President on policy decision.

GREAT sample size their Bman. I talked to one person on the street who's voting for McCain. I guess that means he's gonna win...

meta4 wrote:Jugo, Leg humper >>

Cincy, really man. This issue is not relevant to this election. Despite all attempts to stick it to Bman, don't you think this line is getting tired? I mean I realize there's a time and a place to beat the drum for this issue but as it's been presented several times over, voiced by supporters, isn't it about time it's mileage has been reached in this forum?

I respect your view, but there comes a time when it you have to wrap it up and put it in the 'fridge for a day when the issue is current and applicable and well... appropriate.

Here's the stump question for the hypothetical... do you think this thread will get more views/posts after the election?

I did leave it the fridge for several days. Then I took it out, it looked good, so I reheated it. Now there's a funny feeling in my stomach and I need to jet to the john...

Let's see, can the right wing make up their mind? Is Obama

1) A muslim?

2) A terrorist?

3) A Socialist?

4) A Communist?

5) A pal of terrorists?

6) The One?

7) The Messiah?

Too young?

9) Too intelligent?

10) Too good of an orator?

11) A supporter of baby killing?

12) A pervert wanting to teach "stranger danger" to young kids

13) we have 8 days left for some more

The republicans are running a shitty campaign if they win it will be solely based upon Obama's race. On the issues the American public agree with Obama. The American public want us OUT of Iraq and the polls show the country is on the wrong track and McCain has been mired at 41-44% in the polls, I concede if Obama does lose it is solely because of the color of his skin.

I will be glad when this election is over ... it has made me a cranky @sshole to family and friends alike ... don't care about all of you. lol

I think the answer lies with what to do to solve our energy dependence..."All of the above."

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:I think the answer lies with what to do to solve our energy dependence..."All of the above."

How about all we need is a President who doesn't swallow his own sperm.

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:I think the answer lies with what to do to solve our energy dependence..."All of the above."

How about all we need is a President who doesn't swallow his own sperm.

Sure...

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:I think the answer lies with what to do to solve our energy dependence..."All of the above."

Right. Because McCain is actually going to solve the problem. He's too busy handing out tax breaks to get anything done.