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Post  Guest Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:47 am

Speaks volumes about the type of people associated with the right wing in this country.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/18/men-tote-assault-rifles-at-obama-event-2/
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Post  LTRT Tue Aug 18, 2009 10:54 am

Whatever....
Just like everybody thinks the Obama joker artist is some crazed right-winger also. Rolling Eyes

Obama Joker Poster Artist Exposed As Liberal-Leaning Palestinian
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/08/obama-joker-artist.html
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Post  LTRT Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:21 am

Bman wrote:Speaks volumes about the type of people associated with the right wing in this country.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/08/18/men-tote-assault-rifles-at-obama-event-2/

A bit of further reading will help you clear your mind.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/08/17/obama.protest.rifle/index.html
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Post  Guest Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:25 am

I know its legal but shows the class of your ilk ... who fucking carries a gun to a Presidential event ... maybe crazy muslims screaming JIHAD ...oh wait, that is what the right wing has become in America, you are our extremist Jihadists.
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Post  LTRT Tue Aug 18, 2009 11:27 am

Bman wrote:I know its legal but shows the class of your ilk ... who fucking carries a gun to a Presidential event ... maybe crazy muslims screaming JIHAD ...oh wait, that is what the right wing has become in America, you are our extremist Jihadists.

And Firas Alkhateeb is the poster child for the left, LOL.
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Post  floridafun Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:07 pm

from the la times link on obama joker artist..

"I abstained from voting in November," he wrote in an e-mail. "Living in Illinois, my vote means close to nothing as there was no chance Obama would not win the state." If he had to choose a politician to support, Alkhateeb said, it would be Ohio Democratic Rep. Dennis Kucinich.
Alkhateeb's assessment of Obama: "In terms of domestic policy, I don't think he's really doing much good for the country right now," he said. "We don't have to 'hero worship' the guy."
Alkhateeb's views on foreign relations align with the Democrats, he said, while he prefers Republican ideals on domestic issues.

sure sounds like a diehard extremist nutso liberal..
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Post  Guest Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:25 pm

Bman wrote:I know its legal but shows the class of your ilk ... who fucking carries a gun to a Presidential event ... maybe crazy muslims screaming JIHAD ...oh wait, that is what the right wing has become in America, you are our extremist Jihadists.

Obama didn't seem to have a problem with it. Secret Service didn't have a problem with it. Why do you? I would feel more comfortable if I were attending such an event, that the gun not be loaded. Having police there that explained he was within his rights and there was nothing illegal, nothing wrong with it.

One day I hope to own another firearm, perhaps a few. I would like to go hunting sometime. I have only recently begun to feel more comfortable around guns. I do not want to raise my kids to have a fear of guns, but rather respect for life. I don't want to necessarily encourage them to feel that they need a gun, but they should not live in fear of guns or those who carry them simply because TV and Movies, and News reports tell them they are dangerous and suggest that only the "highly trained" are capable of protecting themselves should the situation arise.

I was in Monroe, IN on Sat. getting new tires and saw a copy of the NRA magazine. I decided to flip through it. It's a different culture than I'm used to, but reading some of the articles I began to get an understanding of the mindset of those who use guns for sport or personal protection. I respect their rights to do that. I was even thankful that, Yes We Can still do this in America.

Yes, It's unfortunate when people go crazy, and it's unfortunate when accidents happen, but we have also have cigarettes, alcohol, and 16 year old drivers. Guns aren't bad, criminals are bad.
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Post  Guest Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:44 pm

The idea that a man had an assault weapon strapped over his shoulder at a Presidential event is over the top, please. No one in a million years will convince me otherwise. Yesterday it was a semi-sane man with the gun when will it be an insane person?

edit ... get your tires at Zurchers?


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Post  Guest Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:49 pm

Bman wrote:The idea that a man had an assault weapon strapped over his shoulder at a Presidential event is over the top, please. No one in a million years will convince me otherwise. Yesterday it was a semi-sane man with the gun when will it be an insane person?

OK, I'll go that far with you. It was inappropriate for the context of the demonstration. Had they been protesting gun control, different story. You have a valid point. It didn't belong at a health care demonstration and he sent a mixed message. Regardless, he was within his rights.

Lets talk about a smoker who flips his cigarette out of the car, while equipped with an "environment" license plate. Littering is illegal, carrying a firearm in public to a peaceful demonstration is not.
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Post  Guest Tue Aug 18, 2009 2:58 pm

Bman wrote:edit ... get your tires at Zurchers?

Heck yeah, they beat every price around. They beat Ft. Wayne tire joints by more than $45, they beat Wal-Mart's price (decatur and elsewhere) by $35 - mounted AND balanced, with free rotates every 6k miles. It's about 25 min from me and I was in and out in 1.25 hrs. I'm very pleased.
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Post  floridafun Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:08 am

meta4 wrote:
Bman wrote:The idea that a man had an assault weapon strapped over his shoulder at a Presidential event is over the top, please. No one in a million years will convince me otherwise. Yesterday it was a semi-sane man with the gun when will it be an insane person?

OK, I'll go that far with you. It was inappropriate for the context of the demonstration. Had they been protesting gun control, different story. You have a valid point. It didn't belong at a health care demonstration and he sent a mixed message. Regardless, he was within his rights.

Lets talk about a smoker who flips his cigarette out of the car, while equipped with an "environment" license plate. Littering is illegal, carrying a firearm in public to a peaceful demonstration is not.

i think at healthcare meetings instead of a show of guns they should be carrying a sign with a big pic of their healthcare card. but i guess it would nullify their stance if they showed they are mostly already being provided, and using, socialist healthcare.
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Post  floridafun Wed Aug 19, 2009 9:12 am

meta4 wrote:
Bman wrote:I know its legal but shows the class of your ilk ... who fucking carries a gun to a Presidential event ... maybe crazy muslims screaming JIHAD ...oh wait, that is what the right wing has become in America, you are our extremist Jihadists.

Obama didn't seem to have a problem with it. Secret Service didn't have a problem with it. Why do you? I would feel more comfortable if I were attending such an event, that the gun not be loaded. Having police there that explained he was within his rights and there was nothing illegal, nothing wrong with it.

One day I hope to own another firearm, perhaps a few. I would like to go hunting sometime. I have only recently begun to feel more comfortable around guns. I do not want to raise my kids to have a fear of guns, but rather respect for life. I don't want to necessarily encourage them to feel that they need a gun, but they should not live in fear of guns or those who carry them simply because TV and Movies, and News reports tell them they are dangerous and suggest that only the "highly trained" are capable of protecting themselves should the situation arise.

I was in Monroe, IN on Sat. getting new tires and saw a copy of the NRA magazine. I decided to flip through it. It's a different culture than I'm used to, but reading some of the articles I began to get an understanding of the mindset of those who use guns for sport or personal protection. I respect their rights to do that. I was even thankful that, Yes We Can still do this in America.

Yes, It's unfortunate when people go crazy, and it's unfortunate when accidents happen, but we have also have cigarettes, alcohol, and 16 year old drivers. Guns aren't bad, criminals are bad.

i am kinda surprised that you feel you should become comfortable with something you are uncomfortable with. reminds me of when i was a teen and didnt like beer..my peers kept telling me if i would stick with it and keep drinking it i would start liking it. true story. i chose not to and still dont drink beer.
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Post  Pez Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:14 am

Yup... it's over the top, but that's what makes this country the best place on the planet... they are protected by the 3rd amendment to have the gun, and protected by the 1st amendment to carry it in the context in which they did...

No issues here... it's like the tea bagger gatherings... people who choose not to be ambivalent in the exercise of their rights. I imagine my stance here is a bit surprising.

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Post  Scooby01_98 Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:19 am

Pez....don't you mean 2nd amendment.
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Post  Guest Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:30 am

floridafun wrote:
meta4 wrote:
Bman wrote:I know its legal but shows the class of your ilk ... who fucking carries a gun to a Presidential event ... maybe crazy muslims screaming JIHAD ...oh wait, that is what the right wing has become in America, you are our extremist Jihadists.

Obama didn't seem to have a problem with it. Secret Service didn't have a problem with it. Why do you? I would feel more comfortable if I were attending such an event, that the gun not be loaded. Having police there that explained he was within his rights and there was nothing illegal, nothing wrong with it.

One day I hope to own another firearm, perhaps a few. I would like to go hunting sometime. I have only recently begun to feel more comfortable around guns. I do not want to raise my kids to have a fear of guns, but rather respect for life. I don't want to necessarily encourage them to feel that they need a gun, but they should not live in fear of guns or those who carry them simply because TV and Movies, and News reports tell them they are dangerous and suggest that only the "highly trained" are capable of protecting themselves should the situation arise.

I was in Monroe, IN on Sat. getting new tires and saw a copy of the NRA magazine. I decided to flip through it. It's a different culture than I'm used to, but reading some of the articles I began to get an understanding of the mindset of those who use guns for sport or personal protection. I respect their rights to do that. I was even thankful that, Yes We Can still do this in America.

Yes, It's unfortunate when people go crazy, and it's unfortunate when accidents happen, but we have also have cigarettes, alcohol, and 16 year old drivers. Guns aren't bad, criminals are bad.

i am kinda surprised that you feel you should become comfortable with something you are uncomfortable with. reminds me of when i was a teen and didnt like beer..my peers kept telling me if i would stick with it and keep drinking it i would start liking it. true story. i chose not to and still dont drink beer.

Well, perhaps I should have chosen my words better, or phrased that a little differently. I don't take the possibility of ending another life in order to protect mine, or my family, lightly. However, if it comes down to it and someone intends to end a life, for whatever reason, I will to prepare myself to make the most sound decision in that situation. I can't imagine that I'll ever need to, but I also never want to regret not making that decision if it means losing the life of someone close to me.

I didn't like sushi the first time I tried it. Same goes for beer, whiskey and wine.
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Post  floridafun Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:32 am

my only problems with the teabagger gatherings were
1) they were definately NOT fighting the same or even similar kind of battle the original boston tea party protesters did--yet they chose the theme because it gave it a warm fuzzy patriotic feel.
2) the signs carried and the rants made at many teabagger gatherings (and continuing with the healthcare protests) were totally unrelated to taxes..many were clearly there because they refuse to accept obama as our president. even if he dropped the public option, they would still protest him. if he said tomorrow he will not sign for any change in healthcare because apparently alot of folks dont want it..the teabaggers would still protest him.
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Post  LTRT Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:45 am

floridafun wrote:my only problems with the teabagger gatherings were
1) they were definately NOT fighting the same or even similar kind of battle the original boston tea party protesters did--yet they chose the theme because it gave it a warm fuzzy patriotic feel.
2) the signs carried and the rants made at many teabagger gatherings (and continuing with the healthcare protests) were totally unrelated to taxes..many were clearly there because they refuse to accept obama as our president. even if he dropped the public option, they would still protest him. if he said tomorrow he will not sign for any change in healthcare because apparently alot of folks dont want it..the teabaggers would still protest him.

Just in case you forgot, Ms Double Standard:

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Post  Pez Wed Aug 19, 2009 10:57 am

Scooby01_98 wrote:Pez....don't you mean 2nd amendment.

Picky picky... here I show up all conservative and you are asking me to cross I's and dot T's...

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Post  Guest Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:09 am

LTRT wrote:Just in case you forgot, Ms Double Standard:

http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816

Might as well break out the Hyperbole!
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Post  Guest Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:25 am

LTRT wrote:
floridafun wrote:my only problems with the teabagger gatherings were
1) they were definately NOT fighting the same or even similar kind of battle the original boston tea party protesters did--yet they chose the theme because it gave it a warm fuzzy patriotic feel.
2) the signs carried and the rants made at many teabagger gatherings (and continuing with the healthcare protests) were totally unrelated to taxes..many were clearly there because they refuse to accept obama as our president. even if he dropped the public option, they would still protest him. if he said tomorrow he will not sign for any change in healthcare because apparently alot of folks dont want it..the teabaggers would still protest him.

Just in case you forgot, Ms Double Standard:

http://www.ringospictures.com/index.php?page=20090816

Glad 4,500 dead Americans due to a war based upon lies and falsehoods (Iraq War) vs. Healthcare ... yea, appples to apples????
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Post  Guest Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:28 am

Pez wrote:Yup... it's over the top, but that's what makes this country the best place on the planet... they are protected by the 3rd amendment to have the gun, and protected by the 1st amendment to carry it in the context in which they did...

No issues here... it's like the tea bagger gatherings... people who choose not to be ambivalent in the exercise of their rights. I imagine my stance here is a bit surprising.

I call BULLSHIT Pez ... you don't take LOADED weapons to events where hundreds of people will be and the President of the United States as a show of your constitutional rights. You take a LOADED gun to use it ... Bullshit. During the campaign when Palin started whooping up hate on the trail and people started shouting kill him about Obama that was wrong and McCain finally became man enough to try to stop it. The people carrying guns at these events are the fucking retards that think Obama was born in Kenya, that returning to the Clinton tax rates IS socialism and that Obama is first cousins with Bin Laden. Please these people are retards, you carry an UNLOADED gun for show you carry a LOADED gun to kill.

You are way wrong here Pez ... just outright wrong.
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Post  floridafun Wed Aug 19, 2009 11:31 am

ltr..aka mr tunnel vision promoting intolerance for all who are different than you--
the site is kinda suspect imho..all thats on it is a couple pages of pics. there is a 4 sentence intro to the owner of the site. period. in looking thru the pics i found about 30 of them related to anti-war protests, and 911 questioners etc, which did express opinions of bush/cheney dictatorship but NO use of ss or swastika or pics of bush with hitler moustache. i dont doubt there were some loonys who would have done what the pics show..i surely dont remember much of it happening. i dont recall any big outrage about it during the bush years --anyone here or on faux or rush or savage orbeck or worldnutdaily having extended discussions about it, decrying and debunking any of it (as is seen daily now)...kinda surprising if it happened much they wouldnt have creating a shiney bandwagon on it...i dont recall there being the kind of ferver then that there is now. the kind where when actual made-up lies can actually be proved as lies and folks still opt to stick with them. the desperation to hate being the dominant theme.
as barney frank told a teabagger who asked him why he supports the nazi agenda obama wants..frank said simply "arguing with you would be like arguing with a dining room table"


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Post  Markwes Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:04 pm

Bman wrote:Glad 4,500 dead Americans due to a war based upon lies and falsehoods (Iraq War) vs. Healthcare ... yea, appples to apples????
2 people legally carry firearms outside of an event where Obama was speaking versus comparing Bush to Hitler and suggesting he should be shot. Yea, compare apples to apples is right.

And by the way, did you notice one of the guys carrying a rifle is an African American? Your typical extreme right winger there huh?
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Post  LTRT Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:07 pm

floridafun wrote:..i surely dont remember much of it happening. i dont recall any big outrage about it during the bush years --

As if you would've seen it on the nightly news, give me a break. Go buy your BHO gear at the NBC store.
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Post  Markwes Wed Aug 19, 2009 12:07 pm

floridafun wrote:as barney frank told a teabagger who asked him why he supports the nazi agenda obama wants..frank said simply "arguing with you would be like arguing with a dining room table"
Well then I guess Barney knows how LTRT and I feel when arguing with the left-leaners on this board.
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