the glenn beck thread

[floridafun]

i think he has earned his own thread..he is certainly one of my fave entertainers! oh but my liberal friends just might blow it for me!!

OAKLAND, Calif.—Eleven new companies whose ads were recently seen during Beck’s program—Binder & Binder, Capital One, The Dannon Company, Discover, HSBC, ICAN Benefit Group Insurance, Infiniti, Jelmar (manufacturer of CLR All-Purpose Cleaner), Jordan McKenna Debt Counseling Network, Mercedes-Benz and Simplex Healthcare (creator of the Diabetes Care Club) —have pledged to ColorOfChange.org to take steps to ensure that their ads don’t run on Beck’s show. Fifty-seven companies have now committed not to support Beck’s show since ColorOfChange.org launched its campaign four weeks ago after the Fox News Channel host called President Obama a “racist” who “has a deep-seated hatred for white people” during an appearance on Fox & Friends.

http://docs.google.com/View?id=dhcd7gb3_6f98bsvc4

[Fighter59]

Beck passed Hannity in ratings thanks to all this publicity. Way to go liberals!

[Pez]

What do liberals care if one insignificant conservative blowhard is more popular than some other insignificant conservative blowhard?

[Fighter59]

What do liberals care if one insignificant conservative blowhard is more popular than some other insignificant conservative blowhard?

They probably don't. I just find it hilarious that their boycott has led to his rating shooting through the roof. Keep up the good work.

[Guest]

What do liberals care if one insignificant conservative blowhard is more popular than some other insignificant conservative blowhard?

They probably don't. I just find it hilarious that their boycott has led to his rating shooting through the roof. Keep up the good work.

I believe Beck had already passed Hannity and Rush in the ratings before the ColorofChange stuff. Just sayin'

[Markwes]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

[Guest]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

[Pez]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

I dont appreciate the sentiment of either... they are free to express what they want, even if their best expression comes out as 'nappy headed ho.' Bush didnt murder anyone, there is a lot of evidence however that he did not tell the truth that may have prevented the war... does that make him a murderer, no... does it make him irresponsible?

[Markwes]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

[Pez]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

Lack of evidence, perhaps?

[Fighter59]

They both have the freedom to say what ever they want and the advertisers have the freedom to pull their adverstising. How long do you think it'll last with those rating?

Whether you agree or not, the boycott back fired. It drew people to hear Beck's message. What a bunch of morons. When will people realize publicity is just that, publicity. Some probably never heard of Beck until this boycott. Again, great job of free promotion!

[Guest]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

Why do I get the feeling that you are willing to suspend disbelief for a while to accept what Beck says at face value? I am unwilling to believe anything he says prior to seeing evidence supporting a claim - before, before, before the accusation is made. Beck's program uses an inverse logic formula... accuse first, then present weak supporting fact-lets after catching the viewers attention.

I tire quickly when listening to anyone try to sell me half-assed crapola of newstainment, for example, Jeremiah Wright. That (IMO) was a campaign trick that obviously had no relevance to Obama, but it was made to sound plausable in order to suggest relevance. The burden of proof with regard to what the mainstream media outlets cover is, and will continue to be, ridiculously weak as long as viewers allow themselves to swallow whatever is spoon fed. It's almost like conditioning, more so than slander or libel. Their (newstainers) priorities seem to be more of encouraging mistrust for anything requiring common sense than outright mudslinging.

[Guest]

Again, great job of free promotion!

Only for those who love to consume the incredible...

[Pez]

They both have the freedom to say what ever they want and the advertisers have the freedom to pull their adverstising. How long do you think it'll last with those rating?

Whether you agree or not, the boycott back fired. It drew people to hear Beck's message. What a bunch of morons. When will people realize publicity is just that, publicity. Some probably never heard of Beck until this boycott. Again, great job of free promotion!

Say wha? The purpose of an advertising boycott is not to suppress someone's message, but rather the purpose of a boycott is to not associate their products with that message. That said, the advertisers pulled their adverts, so they are not associated with that message. Proctor and Gamble didn't overtly wish to silence beck, nor do they have the power to do such a thing. The can however choose not to purchase advertising time during that message. I know you are likely keen to rub free publicity in the face of liberals, and that is fine, but you do have to acknowledge that the goals of such a boycott are to remove a companies sponsorship from a certain viewpoint, which was accomplished... To suppose that all these advertisers are colluding together to suppress beck's freedom of speech is a misunderstanding of the purpose of a boycott.

Im not sure where it backfired?

[Fighter59]

I know what the purpose of the boycott was. I can't believe I have to explain this multiple times.

When a newspaper runs the story of the boycott, or it's even discussed on this board, that media outlet is providing free publicity to the Glen Beck television show. Since the boycott, Beck's rating have skyrocketed; therefore, one could make the contentiont that the boycott had a direct coorelation to the ratings boost.

Enough already! Geesh!

[floridafun]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

apparently its possibly or definately true in a few folks opinion here..and their bretheren out there in faux/worldnutdaily land.

[Pez]

I know what the purpose of the boycott was. I can't believe I have to explain this multiple times.

When a newspaper runs the story of the boycott, or it's even discussed on this board, that media outlet is providing free publicity to the Glen Beck television show. Since the boycott, Beck's rating have skyrocketed; therefore, one could make the contentiont that the boycott had a direct coorelation to the ratings boost.

Enough already! Geesh!

Riiight... you said it backfired... as if they advertisers that pulled their adverts from Beck had colluded together to shut him down to defend Obama and their liberal agenda. They pulled them so as not to be associated with someone who called someone a racist without evidence...

I dont wish to offend, but the reason you have to explain it multiple times is because you keep getting it wrong... I conceded that Becks rating have went up as a result of the media coverage of said boycott, however the fact remains that these advertisers are no longer supporting Beck.

[floridafun]

i thought the ratings went up because sarah asked her friends to watch him. oops guess they both already did huh?

[Guest]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

I tire quickly when listening to anyone try to sell me half-assed crapola of newstainment, for example, Jeremiah Wright. That (IMO) was a campaign trick that obviously had no relevance to Obama, but it was made to sound plausable in order to suggest relevance. The burden of proof with regard to what the mainstream media outlets cover is, and will continue to be, ridiculously weak as long as viewers allow themselves to swallow whatever is spoon fed. It's almost like conditioning, more so than slander or libel. Their (newstainers) priorities seem to be more of encouraging mistrust for anything requiring common sense than outright mudslinging.

That's your opinion that the "Reverand" Wright issue had no relevance to Obama. I happen to believe that someone who sits in the same pew for 20 years and listens to someone spew hatred as opposed to preaching a sermon has some questions to answer. Do your research on this particular church and ask yourself if it really is a church? It's a political organization. He's not getting slandered, he's creating his own reputation based on who he wants to hang out with.

[Markwes]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

apparently its possibly or definately true in a few folks opinion here..and their bretheren out there in faux/worldnutdaily land.

And there are a few folks here who will continue to assume we think Obama is a Muslim, racist, and not really a U.S. citizen. Might as well give them what they want so they can throw us in with the "crazy" Obama haters.

[Guest]

"Obama is corrupt, our county is bankrupt" is the new "Bush lied, people died". Good grief.

[Guest]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

I tire quickly when listening to anyone try to sell me half-assed crapola of newstainment, for example, Jeremiah Wright. That (IMO) was a campaign trick that obviously had no relevance to Obama, but it was made to sound plausable in order to suggest relevance. The burden of proof with regard to what the mainstream media outlets cover is, and will continue to be, ridiculously weak as long as viewers allow themselves to swallow whatever is spoon fed. It's almost like conditioning, more so than slander or libel. Their (newstainers) priorities seem to be more of encouraging mistrust for anything requiring common sense than outright mudslinging.

That's your opinion that the "Reverand" Wright issue had no relevance to Obama. I happen to believe that someone who sits in the same pew for 20 years and listens to someone spew hatred as opposed to preaching a sermon has some questions to answer. Do your research on this particular church and ask yourself if it really is a church? It's a political organization. He's not getting slandered, he's creating his own reputation based on who he wants to hang out with.

Ok, assume for a minute that you also believe it's not sitting in the pew, but what you do that makes you a follower.

Honestly? Tell me there has never been one sermon you've heard that's been a little "off", in all the years you've been churched... not one? I distlinctly recall one sermon entitled "Divorce: An issue of the heart." The basic jist of the message said it's ok to divorce, God knows your heart and will judge you later. Contrary to what some legalists say "marriage is forever" a commitment that shall not be broken. Was it wrong for the speaker to encourage some to divorce rather than preach the bond should never be broken? The scripture says "What God has brought together, let no man separate" so you see the contradiction?

Obama sitting in church, having dinner with, being personal friends with Wright had nothing to do with Wright's crazy statements made after Obama was considered a candidte for president. We have no evidence of Obama's attendance for 20 years nor anything he's ever said or done that would reflect the kind of attitude you assume he has. Perhaps you're ability to believe this could be a projection of your own feelings and attitudes about how your life has changed while anchored in pew.

You get my drift? In the measure you use...

[Guest]

I still don't understand all the hubbub. It's okay to call Bush a murderer but don't call Obama a racist.

... and a racist + with a deep seated hatred for white people. Wouldn't be so bad if it were true. Bush lied about WMD, it's old news confirmed by multiple sources. Did someone mention Patriot Act?

How do you know what Beck said isn't true? Clairvoyance?

I tire quickly when listening to anyone try to sell me half-assed crapola of newstainment, for example, Jeremiah Wright. That (IMO) was a campaign trick that obviously had no relevance to Obama, but it was made to sound plausable in order to suggest relevance. The burden of proof with regard to what the mainstream media outlets cover is, and will continue to be, ridiculously weak as long as viewers allow themselves to swallow whatever is spoon fed. It's almost like conditioning, more so than slander or libel. Their (newstainers) priorities seem to be more of encouraging mistrust for anything requiring common sense than outright mudslinging.

That's your opinion that the "Reverand" Wright issue had no relevance to Obama. I happen to believe that someone who sits in the same pew for 20 years and listens to someone spew hatred as opposed to preaching a sermon has some questions to answer. Do your research on this particular church and ask yourself if it really is a church? It's a political organization. He's not getting slandered, he's creating his own reputation based on who he wants to hang out with.

Ok, assume for a minute that you also believe it's not sitting in the pew, but what you do that makes you a follower.

Honestly? Tell me there has never been one sermon you've heard that's been a little "off", in all the years you've been churched... not one? I distlinctly recall one sermon entitled "Divorce: An issue of the heart." The basic jist of the message said it's ok to divorce, God knows your heart and will judge you later. Contrary to what some legalists say "marriage is forever" a commitment that shall not be broken. Was it wrong for the speaker to encourage some to divorce rather than preach the bond should never be broken? The scripture says "What God has brought together, let no man separate" so you see the contradiction?

Obama sitting in church, having dinner with, being personal friends with Wright had nothing to do with Wright's crazy statements made after Obama was considered a candidte for president. We have no evidence of Obama's attendance for 20 years nor anything he's ever said or done that would reflect the kind of attitude you assume he has. Perhaps you're ability to believe this could be a projection of your own feelings and attitudes about how your life has changed while anchored in pew.

You get my drift? In the measure you use...

There's plenty of evidence. He was a church member for 20 years. Are you denying that? Interesting how for 20 years all was fine until Obama ran for president and then he distanced themselves from Wright. At least Obama tried to distance himself from Wright for political gain. If you are not afraid to admit you went to a church and listened to this guy for 20 years then why distance yourself. These are facts and you can't dispute. Are you willing to take your family and attend one of those Wright "sermons"?

I've heard plenty of sermons where something was said and I didn't fall in line with it. Divorce for example, some pastors think once a couple divorces then neithor one should be allowed to remarry. Other pastors think in rare occasions it ok for a divorced spouse to remarry. The difference between the sermons I hear and the ones Obama heard and that were videotaped and aired across the county is one is biblical and the other is political.

There's your drift...

[Pez]

There's plenty of evidence. He was a church member for 20 years. Are you denying that? Interesting how for 20 years all was fine until Obama ran for president and then he distanced themselves from Wright. At least Obama tried to distance himself from Wright for political gain. If you are not afraid to admit you went to a church and listened to this guy for 20 years then why distance yourself. These are facts and you can't dispute. Are you willing to take your family and attend one of those Wright "sermons"?

I've heard plenty of sermons where something was said and I didn't fall in line with it. Divorce for example, some pastors think once a couple divorces then neithor one should be allowed to remarry. Other pastors think in rare occasions it ok for a divorced spouse to remarry. The difference between the sermons I hear and the ones Obama heard and that were videotaped and aired across the county is one is biblical and the other is political.

There's your drift...

I'm not sure that Wright didnt go to pluto until after Obama became a candidate... in whichh case Obama had no choice but to distance himself. I think this connection and similar connections that were exploited by liberals to attack GW have about as much bearing on presidential qualilfications as do their horoscopes.

[Guest]

Please Jerry Falwell has said worse things than Rev. Wright did where were you Kroman and Cincy condeming Falwell and Robertson for their hate spewing. All will condemn Rev. Wright for bringing politics into the pulpit the same as Falwell and Robertson bring it to the pulpit and the tv. Falwell, Robertson, Bob Jones and all have the blessing from the right wing to spew hate but Rev. Wrights complaints about 9/11 and social injustice is just over the top.

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