Re: the glenn beck thread

[Fighter59]

didnt pope benedict say communion should be suspended for our politicians who are pro-choice? wasnt our very own publicity hound d'arcy all ginned up about protesting obama speaking at notre dame? is the catholic church not investigating nuns in america because they might not be following the churches teachings to the letter..they might be teaching tolerance and love of all people like jesus did? right..no politics here.

great minds think alike meta

Why do you hate Catholics?

[Guest]

There's plenty of evidence. He was a church member for 20 years. Are you denying that? Interesting how for 20 years all was fine until Obama ran for president and then he distanced themselves from Wright. At least Obama tried to distance himself from Wright for political gain. If you are not afraid to admit you went to a church and listened to this guy for 20 years then why distance yourself. These are facts and you can't dispute. Are you willing to take your family and attend one of those Wright "sermons"?

I've heard plenty of sermons where something was said and I didn't fall in line with it. Divorce for example, some pastors think once a couple divorces then neithor one should be allowed to remarry. Other pastors think in rare occasions it ok for a divorced spouse to remarry. The difference between the sermons I hear and the ones Obama heard and that were videotaped and aired across the county is one is biblical and the other is political.
There's your drift...

I don't know what to say about this. I hear you and I acknowledge that he admitted attending Wright's church. I cannot assume his reasons for distancing himself outside of what Wright's outrageous comments and Obama's reaction to that - distancing. You'll have to excuse me, I get frustrated listening to the formulaic "Beck's burden of proof" methodology. You've been listening to him too long. You have said something.. but you have not provided proof with anything you've said.

Want proof? Fact 1: I don't listen to Glenn Beck. I work during the day when he is on the radio and I play racquetball in the evening when he is on tv. Even if I had the chance of watching or listening to him I wouldn't because I personally find him annoying. Check your facts before you offer your version of "proof".

Fact 2: Any church where a pastor stands behind the pulpit and states "God Damn America" is a church where every single member should have stood up from their pews and left. That wasn't a sermon, it was a political speech. I can see why FF liked the political speech.

Fact 3: Obama didn't begin to distance himself from Wright until he became a presidential candidate. Another political move.

Fact 4: You know more about Glenn Beck then I do.

fact 1. human facts about an american people whose great grandparents were kept in chains to live for serving and slaving for white folks. old history? yes. if it wasnt your family and the family of ALL those of your race who struggled so hard during our lifetimes to gain some measure of equality..then find in your bible the part where jesus talks about walking in another persons shoes and maybe figure out it doesnt mean their stiletto heels.

fact 2. political yes. ever been to a church full of black folks in an inner city with a huge population of blacks below poverty level, particularly during any election year? political decisions was the way they gained the level of freedom they have. his audience are the people who werent allowed to go thru the front door of businesses relatively recently. couldnt look white folks in the eye..it was defiant and they didnt know their place if they dared to do so. learn some real history if you want to understand. if you want to disappoint your god and judge others without understanding the facts then just keep on as you are.

fact 3. and the pope? political.
fact 4. all televangelists? political.
fact 5. all those clever defiant (against irs tax code guidelines) church leaders who tell to their parishoners who to vote for that would support their christian ethics over the years? political.

the god damn america sermon--

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

Fact: You're looney.

[floridafun]

did you actually watch the sermon kromie? and i am not in the least bothered by your name calling..uhhh lose your olive branch?

[Guest]

did you actually watch the sermon kromie? and i am not in the least bothered by your name calling..uhhh lose your olive branch?

Don't need to watch the political speech. Like I said any pastor that spews that kind of language behind the pulpit should not be surprised when every member stands up and leaves. It wouldn't offend you because you don't think God exists. Not sure why you are even concerned about this topic since it's "God" related.

As far as the olive branch goes you have to be willing to reach out and accept it. You never have been willing.

[Guest]

didnt pope benedict say communion should be suspended for our politicians who are pro-choice? wasnt our very own publicity hound d'arcy all ginned up about protesting obama speaking at notre dame? is the catholic church not investigating nuns in america because they might not be following the churches teachings to the letter..they might be teaching tolerance and love of all people like jesus did? right..no politics here.

great minds think alike meta

Why do you hate Catholics?

She hates anything that is God related and she'll use the Bible to support her beliefs.

[Guest]

Please Kroman, every evangelical, pentecostal and catholic church gets political in the run up to an election. Churches hand out voters guides (telling attending church people how to vote). Please, Obama and Wright are not any different than probably your Pastor the month ahead of the election.

Gee Bman, my catholic church didn't tell me how to vote, nor has any that I've ever attended. Yes, they handed out material to show where they stand on issues, but no where does it say you must vote for Candidate A instead of Candidate B. Nice try there Sparky.

Yeah, there are plenty of non-church, but catholic branded media outlets that will say such things. The generally don't do it directly, i.e. Bishop D'arcy boycotting Notre Dame graduation. Not a perfect example as it was after the fact, but you get the general idea. I definitely recall an online Catholic "news" outlet saying vote "NO to BO".

not just picking on catholics, but just sayin' about the media outlets used by the catholic church. Lutherans and pentecostals have their own as well as other denoms...

What some on this board don't seem to understand is that you go to church to worship God. When you have a pastor, preacher, priest, whatever, behind the pulpit who talks politics then God is no longer the focus of worship. The focus instead is on politics. That's the beef with churches with the likes of Jeremiah Wright leading the way. His followers have an itch they want scratched and Wright does that. The focus is on the people instead of God.

Believe it or not we went through a pastor search a couple of years ago at our church and we instantly decided to no longer consider this one particular candidate because he kept mentioning liberals. We didn't want someone behind the pulpit preaching politics. We wanted someone to be preaching from the Bible and leave politics out of it.

[floridafun]

some new glen stuff..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjJcHLaGvv0&feature=PlayList&p=8CB2070E99E76A24&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=13

http://mediamatters.org/mmtv/200909150034

http://mediamatters.org/blog/200909100022

[LTRT]

Obama camp blasts Beck
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ynews/ynews_ts935



So the entire media is and has been in love with the boss for well over a year now, let alone during the whole campaign did all that they could do to discredit McCain and Palin and the White House wants to cry foul.

Just like Chris Wallace said last week,

[Guest]

Chris Wallace seems to be the cry baby ... he is basically whining that the President did not appear on his show on Fox News. Please Chris, if you want to interivew the President then bail on Fox which is dead set on trying to bring down the President rather than present facts. Firetruck, Glenn Beck has said he does not care if he reports facts (watch him say that on the clip of him on The View).

Chris Wallace ... you are the biggest cry baby on cable tv.

[LTRT]

Glenn Beck has said he does not care if he reports facts (watch him say that on the clip of him on The View).

And we are to believe everything that comes from the mouth of the Prez and his WH?

Here's a rope, you're drowning in Kool-aid.

[floridafun]

mmm until it is proven that he sat in the white house with his cheerleaders and knowingly concocted totally false information to offer to the public in order to convince me of some world-affecting personal agenda, i will give him the respect he has earned. i do not agree with him on every single opinion he expresses but i credit him for his accomplishments and have expectations of him for as long as he is the prez.

and i dont think everyone who is dissatisfied with a policy or action he takes is a nutty extremists. but there are some of that type here.

[Guest]

Glenn Beck has said he does not care if he reports facts (watch him say that on the clip of him on The View).

And we are to believe everything that comes from the mouth of the Prez and his WH?

Here's a rope, you're drowning in Kool-aid.

LTRT, I disagree here. I think this is a smart political move by the WH. What's that old(er) saying? Don't wrestle with a pig, you both get messy and the pig likes it.

I would lose respect for Obama if he catered to Fox pressure and appeared for the specific comments made by Beck on the View after he dissed Barbara Walters and Whoopi after that train ride. I really don't give a firetruck about Walters or Goldberg, et al. but Beck was caught and confronted about his lies and fully admitted he does not adhere to truth or fact, but entertainews. I think I'm allergic to entertainews...

[Markwes]

http://www.glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/

Beck is apparently suing over this website. It is certainly meant as satire, but is it grounds for libel? Or even if not libel, does it violate using a trademarked name? If I knew how to do a votey thing I would.

[Guest]

hahahaha this remembles the type of shit the Glenn Beck spews as facts on his show! He deserves this ... I am sitting here ACTUALLY laughing out loud, not just lol'ing it.

Thanks Mark ... I finally enjoyed a post of yours!

[Markwes]

Well Bman, I'm glad you enjoyed that. It's kind of funny that you apparently listen to his show. I don't, and it seems like liberals know more about its content then do conservatives. I guess he has achieved his purpose then, which is ratings. Way to go Bman!

[Guest]

apparently listen to his show. I don't, and it seems like liberals know more about its content then do conservatives.

Seems that way coming from the guy who knows nothing about his content? You've never heard any Glenn Beck? What? Do you live in a cave? Amish?

[floridafun]

i saw the site last week..they clearly state on it that there is no proof its true but they cant find any proof it isnt, and that its a spoof because its exactly how he reports..i doubt he will win any lawsuit. free speech. they dont say he did it..they ask if anyone has any facts to share if they know about it.

[Markwes]

apparently listen to his show. I don't, and it seems like liberals know more about its content then do conservatives.

Seems that way coming from the guy who knows nothing about his content? You've never heard any Glenn Beck? What? Do you live in a cave? Amish?

Yes I live in a cave by gosh. Damn me all to hell!!!

[Markwes]

i saw the site last week..they clearly state on it that there is no proof its true but they cant find any proof it isnt, and that its a spoof because its exactly how he reports..i doubt he will win any lawsuit. free speech. they dont say he did it..they ask if anyone has any facts to share if they know about it.

So if it's the same way he reports, then you condemn it too right?

[Guest]

Well Bman, I'm glad you enjoyed that. It's kind of funny that you apparently listen to his show. I don't, and it seems like liberals know more about its content then do conservatives. I guess he has achieved his purpose then, which is ratings. Way to go Bman!

GET IT RIGHT Mark ... I do NOT watch or listen to his show. There was a clip of The View posted on THIS message board where he said he does not fact check anything because facts don't matter!

[Markwes]

Well Bman, I'm glad you enjoyed that. It's kind of funny that you apparently listen to his show. I don't, and it seems like liberals know more about its content then do conservatives. I guess he has achieved his purpose then, which is ratings. Way to go Bman!

GET IT RIGHT Mark ... I do NOT watch or listen to his show. There was a clip of The View posted on THIS message board where he said he does not fact check anything because facts don't matter!

I think you need to "get it right" because I couldn't care less how he reports or what he said on The View. As I have said, I'm not a fan of his. I just asked a simple question whether or not this website is grounds for a lawsuit. So far, Floridafun is the only one who has given an answer. Other than that, all I've seen is one poster asking me if I live in a cave and another who thinks a website with "satire" about rape and murder is LOL material.

[floridafun]

i watch fox a couple times a week for a couple hours. as i said when fox ratings were discussed..there are alot of us that do so mainly for entertainment. and i always hope i will catch glen on a nite where he has had the make-up artist apply vicks to his cheeks so the fumes in his eyes will make him cry

[floridafun]

didnt pope benedict say communion should be suspended for our politicians who are pro-choice? wasnt our very own publicity hound d'arcy all ginned up about protesting obama speaking at notre dame? is the catholic church not investigating nuns in america because they might not be following the churches teachings to the letter..they might be teaching tolerance and love of all people like jesus did? right..no politics here.

great minds think alike meta

Why do you hate Catholics?

She hates anything that is God related and she'll use the Bible to support her beliefs.

how is it my fault if the bible supports non-belief?

[Markwes]

Speaking of The View, is Whoopi Goldberg the most miserable person alive or what? I saw her on Hollywood Squares and she was angry even on that show, which I didn't think was possible.

[Guest]

didnt pope benedict say communion should be suspended for our politicians who are pro-choice? wasnt our very own publicity hound d'arcy all ginned up about protesting obama speaking at notre dame? is the catholic church not investigating nuns in america because they might not be following the churches teachings to the letter..they might be teaching tolerance and love of all people like jesus did? right..no politics here.

great minds think alike meta

Why do you hate Catholics?

She hates anything that is God related and she'll use the Bible to support her beliefs.

how is it my fault if the bible supports non-belief?

How is what your fault? Tell me what does the Bible say about your non-belief?

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