hurdle passed

got our 60 votes..and i think the coming discussions will be on c-span since its an official bill under discussion. YAY!!

The Louisiana Purchase: $300 Million For My Vote!

On the eve of Saturday's showdown in the Senate over health-care reform, Democratic leaders still hadn't secured the support of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), one of the 60 votes needed to keep the legislation alive. The wavering lawmaker was offered a sweetener: at least $100 million in extra federal money for her home state.

And so it came to pass that Landrieu walked onto the Senate floor midafternoon Saturday to announce her aye vote -- and to trumpet the financial "fix" she had arranged for Louisiana. "I am not going to be defensive," she declared. "And it's not a $100 million fix. It's a $300 million fix."

Yep, she took the bait, a typical politician doing what's normal in DC.

Now just stop finding facts like that LTRT, you're only tarnishing the good Democratic name for crying out loud!

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:Now just stop finding facts like that LTRT, you're only tarnishing the good Democratic name for crying out loud!

Riiiiight... the Republican wouldn't have settled for less than 500 million, and then would have called it a win for NOLA reconstruction.

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:Now just stop finding facts like that LTRT, you're only tarnishing the good Democratic name for crying out loud!

Riiiiight... the Republican wouldn't have settled for less than 500 million, and then would have called it a win for NOLA reconstruction.

Personally I think they shouldn't reconstruct that area at all. What do you expect when you build BELOW sea level? Isn't that how it's done in the Bizzaro World? AHAH-AHAH.

Is that democrat down there really Blago?

i think if you climb into your time machine and go back a few weeks you will learn that obama went and had alotta discussions in her state, with their gov, other leaders trying to improve what bush ignored since katrina happened and the hs people..and o made it was clear he was going to try to find a way to get more medicaid availability to the people who need it there and have had no healthcare since katrina..plus cash influx to aid in building and equiping needed stuff like fire stations and health clinics.

and so what if it was in hopes of swaying healthcare passage..is this a political first?

drumroll....in my best john mccain whine...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ziiMKRLSjo&feature=related

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:Now just stop finding facts like that LTRT, you're only tarnishing the good Democratic name for crying out loud!

Riiiiight... the Republican wouldn't have settled for less than 500 million, and then would have called it a win for NOLA reconstruction.

Personally I think they shouldn't reconstruct that area at all. What do you expect when you build BELOW sea level? Isn't that how it's done in the Bizzaro World? AHAH-AHAH.

Is that democrat down there really Blago?

Going on that same notion they shouldn't build in Malibu either, after all that is slowly slipping into the Pacific, however when something is happening there, it's a major tragedy.
They could learn something from the Dutch about building below sea level.

Canuck wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:Now just stop finding facts like that LTRT, you're only tarnishing the good Democratic name for crying out loud!

Riiiiight... the Republican wouldn't have settled for less than 500 million, and then would have called it a win for NOLA reconstruction.

Personally I think they shouldn't reconstruct that area at all. What do you expect when you build BELOW sea level? Isn't that how it's done in the Bizzaro World? AHAH-AHAH.

Is that democrat down there really Blago?

Going on that same notion they shouldn't build in Malibu either, after all that is slowly slipping into the Pacific, however when something is happening there, it's a major tragedy.
They could learn something from the Dutch about building below sea level.

If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

LTRT wrote:The Louisiana Purchase: $300 Million For My Vote!

On the eve of Saturday's showdown in the Senate over health-care reform, Democratic leaders still hadn't secured the support of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), one of the 60 votes needed to keep the legislation alive. The wavering lawmaker was offered a sweetener: at least $100 million in extra federal money for her home state.

And so it came to pass that Landrieu walked onto the Senate floor midafternoon Saturday to announce her aye vote -- and to trumpet the financial "fix" she had arranged for Louisiana. "I am not going to be defensive," she declared. "And it's not a $100 million fix. It's a $300 million fix."

Yep, she took the bait, a typical politician doing what's normal in DC.

How did I know this would get the "Republicans would do the same thing" and "Blame Bush" response?

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

Markwes wrote:

LTRT wrote:The Louisiana Purchase: $300 Million For My Vote!

On the eve of Saturday's showdown in the Senate over health-care reform, Democratic leaders still hadn't secured the support of Sen. Mary Landrieu (D-La.), one of the 60 votes needed to keep the legislation alive. The wavering lawmaker was offered a sweetener: at least $100 million in extra federal money for her home state.

And so it came to pass that Landrieu walked onto the Senate floor midafternoon Saturday to announce her aye vote -- and to trumpet the financial "fix" she had arranged for Louisiana. "I am not going to be defensive," she declared. "And it's not a $100 million fix. It's a $300 million fix."

Yep, she took the bait, a typical politician doing what's normal in DC.

How did I know this would get the "Republicans would do the same thing" and "Blame Bush" response?

Don't forget the infamous youtube video link.

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

So I should just shut up about how my taxes (and yours) are spent?

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

So I should just shut up about how my taxes (and yours) are spent?

Don't you know that's what we're supposed to do.

"Stop Complaining So Much"

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

So I should just shut up about how my taxes (and yours) are spent?

I didn't say that. I was just making a remark about your use of possessive pronouns. My second comment was to highlight that if you have a problem spending "your" federal dollars in Louisiana, we (in Indiana) should likewise receive no federal aid following any "act of God". Period.

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

So I should just shut up about how my taxes (and yours) are spent?

I didn't say that. I was just making a remark about your use of possessive pronouns. My second comment was to highlight that if you have a problem spending "your" federal dollars in Louisiana, we (in Indiana) should likewise receive no federal aid following any "act of God". Period.

I think they should look at it on a case by case basis. Don't give fed funds to the idiots who build below sea level and then cry when it floods. Aren't there laws (just wondering) about building in a flood plain? I don't think insurance will even cover you if you do, so why should we the taxpayer?

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

So I should just shut up about how my taxes (and yours) are spent?

I didn't say that. I was just making a remark about your use of possessive pronouns. My second comment was to highlight that if you have a problem spending "your" federal dollars in Louisiana, we (in Indiana) should likewise receive no federal aid following any "act of God". Period.

I think they should look at it on a case by case basis. Don't give fed funds to the idiots who build below sea level and then cry when it floods. Aren't there laws (just wondering) about building in a flood plain? I don't think insurance will even cover you if you do, so why should we the taxpayer?

Well, obviously because the government should be run like an insurance corporation. Nix everything that happens as an "act of God" and quickly everything becomes an "act of God". After all, WHO DOES want to pay for it? You could include interstate highways and railroad lines as well. If the Gov pays to build the road initially, then it should fall on the local taxpayers to foot the bill after the interstate travelers and weather wear it out.

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

So I should just shut up about how my taxes (and yours) are spent?

I didn't say that. I was just making a remark about your use of possessive pronouns. My second comment was to highlight that if you have a problem spending "your" federal dollars in Louisiana, we (in Indiana) should likewise receive no federal aid following any "act of God". Period.

I think they should look at it on a case by case basis. Don't give fed funds to the idiots who build below sea level and then cry when it floods. Aren't there laws (just wondering) about building in a flood plain? I don't think insurance will even cover you if you do, so why should we the taxpayer?

I guess I should ask you how much are you willing to pay for gas? Now most of NOLA has been below sea level. However, do to our need for OIL we have basically destroyed the bayous that once protected NOLA and southern LA. NOLA also has the only terminal that can off load crude oil from super tankers. Has pipelines running from the gulf right straight to refinerys (you know those big smelly things no one else wants, well except for Texas).

Just recently (last two weeks) COE has been found guilty of not building proper levees, this was under both DEMS and REPUB congressional, presidencies and governorships.

New Orleans deserves to survive just as much as other communities along the Mississippi River, San Andreas fault, FL and where every other community has natural disasters.

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:
If they want to build there, fine. But don't expect me to have to foot the bill for their idiocy when it all comes crashing down.

...and Bears. Oh my! I'd also expect you'd decline federal dollars earmarked for repairs after a tornado or flood. Correct?

You "foot the bill", that's great. Taxes you've paid are still "yours"... interesting!

So I should just shut up about how my taxes (and yours) are spent?

I didn't say that. I was just making a remark about your use of possessive pronouns. My second comment was to highlight that if you have a problem spending "your" federal dollars in Louisiana, we (in Indiana) should likewise receive no federal aid following any "act of God". Period.

I think they should look at it on a case by case basis. Don't give fed funds to the idiots who build below sea level and then cry when it floods. Aren't there laws (just wondering) about building in a flood plain? I don't think insurance will even cover you if you do, so why should we the taxpayer?

Really though, no one saw that coming. Banks were still giving loans, so they apparently didn't foresee anything like that. Don't forget we had homes destroyed by floods here a few years back. That said, it's still wrong to "buy" a vote, which is pretty much what happened.