Re: The "ground zero mosque"

Scooby01_98 Fri Aug 20, 2010 7:20 pm

Pez wrote:

This is religious persecution, plan and simple. I cannot believe that it's not plainly evident to everyone, even more, I cant believe that Imam Rauf is being labeled an extremist by the right wing media, who conveniently forgets the fact that he served under the Reagan administration to help improve islamic relations...

Yeah and Osma Bin Laden was supplied and trained by the U.S. and used to fight against the Russians when they occupied Afghanistan. Point is things change.

Pez Tue Aug 24, 2010 4:07 pm

Scooby01_98 wrote:
Yeah and Osma Bin Laden was supplied and trained by the U.S. and used to fight against the Russians when they occupied Afghanistan. Point is things change.

Are you saying that now this Imam is a terrorist based on the point that we once believe that Osama was a good guy? (I'm not on record that we believed that)

Scooby01_98 Wed Aug 25, 2010 12:12 am

Pez wrote:
Scooby01_98 wrote:
Yeah and Osma Bin Laden was supplied and trained by the U.S. and used to fight against the Russians when they occupied Afghanistan. Point is things change.

Are you saying that now this Imam is a terrorist based on the point that we once believe that Osama was a good guy? (I'm not on record that we believed that)

No, I am saying relationships change as in; Japan was once our enemy, they are now are ally

Pez Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:20 am

Scooby01_98 wrote:
Pez wrote:
Scooby01_98 wrote:
Yeah and Osma Bin Laden was supplied and trained by the U.S. and used to fight against the Russians when they occupied Afghanistan. Point is things change.

Are you saying that now this Imam is a terrorist based on the point that we once believe that Osama was a good guy? (I'm not on record that we believed that)

No, I am saying relationships change as in; Japan was once our enemy, they are now are ally

ok... and so Muslims were once our friend and now they are our enemy?

Scooby01_98 Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:23 am

Pez wrote:

ok... and so Muslims were once our friend and now they are our enemy?

Twist it however you want, if you want to play that dumb.

Pez Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:27 am

Scooby01_98 wrote:
Pez wrote:

ok... and so Muslims were once our friend and now they are our enemy?

Twist it however you want, if you want to play that dumb.

Sry man... didnt realize I was being dumb (I guess if I realize that it wouldnt be so). Just trying to understand your comparison between our relationship with bin Laden and the mosque, and I'm not sure if your comparison is meant to be comparing bin Laden to Muslims in general, the mosque itself, or to Imam Rauf.

Scooby01_98 Wed Aug 25, 2010 9:32 am

Pez wrote:
Scooby01_98 wrote:
Pez wrote:

ok... and so Muslims were once our friend and now they are our enemy?

Twist it however you want, if you want to play that dumb.

Sry man... didnt realize I was being dumb (I guess if I realize that it wouldnt be so). Just trying to understand your comparison between our relationship with bin Laden and the mosque, and I'm not sure if your comparison is meant to be comparing bin Laden to Muslims in general, the mosque itself, or to Imam Rauf.

All I was saying is relationships change thru time. Just because someone was friendly at one time doesn't mean they stay friends. Whether that be people, countries etc.

Pez Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:57 am

Read a story yesterday that spurred some thought around this. The question of the 'Islamic center near ground zero' really boils down to our national identity. Do we want to stay America, or become something else?

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