teabaggery..

teabaggers want to be allowed to have their very own version of a state sanctioned militia. the tim mcveigh wanna-be kids.

OKLAHOMA CITY — Frustrated by recent political setbacks, tea party leaders and some members of the Oklahoma Legislature say they would like to create a volunteer militia.

The militia's purpose would be to defend against what activists see as improper federal infringements on state sovereignty.

Tea party leaders say they've discussed the idea with several lawmakers and hope for legislation next year. State Sen. Randy Brogdon, a Republican candidate for governor, and Republican state Rep. Charles Key say they are open to the idea.

But critics say talk of a militia could encourage anti-government radicals like those who bombed the Oklahoma City federal building in 1995.

Read more from this Tulsa World article at http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=12&articleid=20100412_12_0_OKLAHO828440

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?subjectid=12&articleid=20100412_12_0_OKLAHO828440

i cant figure out what freedoms they have lost. and where the fuck they were when bush lied his way into overtaking and occupying first afghanistan then iraq where over 5,000 military members have lost their lives ONLY because of the bush/cheeney lies, where were they when unlimited in-usa wiretapping was authorized by bush? seems like the uberconservatives are only happy if there is a war going on. so wtf is their real beef now?? and the bs song and dance about the stimulous and obama took all the jobs away and obama is making us grandma killing socialists is not worth "using".

cracks me up how much this guys story changes overnite when he is trying to work with the oklahoma teabagger politician to get his militia a legal status in his state LOL!!

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/04/tea_party_movement_spreads_to_military.php


here is armed forces teabagger site..

http://www.teapartypatriots.org/Group/Armed_Forces_Tea_Party_Patriots

here is oathkeepers. tyranny lining up. in socialist jails they will get free food and med care at least.

http://oathkeepers.org/oath/

floridafun wrote:i cant figure out what freedoms they have lost. and where the fuck they were when bush lied his way into overtaking and occupying first afghanistan then iraq where over 5,000 military members have lost their lives ONLY because of the bush/cheeney lies, where were they when unlimited in-usa wiretapping was authorized by bush? seems like the uberconservatives are only happy if there is a war going on. so wtf is their real beef now?? and the bs song and dance about the stimulous and obama took all the jobs away and obama is making us grandma killing socialists is not worth "using".

cracks me up how much this guys story changes overnite when he is trying to work with the oklahoma teabagger politician to get his militia a legal status in his state LOL!!

So glad to see you a supporter of the Taliban. The form of government that allowed terrorist organization to set up camp in there country to practice and plan attacks on innocent citizens of other countries. A regime that treats women with no respect.

So glad to see you supported Saddam Hussein a leader that attacked a neighboring country, (just for there oil by the way). That paid money to terrorist families that killed innocent citizens. So glad you supported a regime that took pot shots at our pilots as they patrolled the no fly zone. That massacred its own citizens and buried them in mass graves.

You whine about Bush/cheney, but say nothing against the Obama administration policy on the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. You know the policy of continuing Bush's policy. You say nothing against Obama renewal of the Patriot act that he has signed.

You whine about the teabaggers but say nothing against code pink, green peace etc. You whine about fox news but want us to read your liberal propaganda in the Huffington Post and treat it as the gospel truth.

And you wonder why I label you a moonbat and give you NO respect for your thoughts and opinions.

? no mention of the little fact that the constitution states the fed gov is to have control over and loyalty of the state militias? that planning a do-over of the civil war..encouraging/instigating/stirring up frustrated people with lies and revisionist history to believe it will be noble and righteous and patriotic and constitutional to actually do physical battle against the fed gov? that is what my posts in this topic are in reference to.

sadam is/was never the only dictator in the middle east who attacked a neighboring or strategically useful country, (uh..like we did to iraq some say..just for there oil by the way), that paid money to terrorist families that killed innocent citizens, took pot shots at our pilots who as they patrolled the no fly zone took pot shots at them, that massacred its own citizens and buried them in mass graves, is/was one of a number of worldwide regimes choosing to rule via a national religion that treats women with no respect. what was the reason again that we attacked and occupied either afghanistan or iraq instead of saudi arabia or iran??

i personally feel there is a huge difference between free speech and yelling FIRE when there isnt one. you compare code pink, green peace etc. to the teabagger movement? i think thats a pretty broad leap. i laugh at and point out actual lies by fox news, the drudge report/britebart, newsmax, and worldnutdaily and do not often cite Huffington Post. i treat factual news as the truth.

and i respect your right to express your opinion about me. free speech and all.

there is a perfectly legal and transparent way to address the many "issues" put forth as excuses for militant teabagger hate-based rage. why dont the angry mobs find a politician who is supportive of their ideas..michelle bachmann or ron paul or some elected supporter, and push this person to insist on an intensive investigation of unamerican activities? this could cover issues of the birthers and their angst about obama being born somewhere other than america, the big gov complainers who believe the healthcare reform is illegal and against state rights, those who think our taxes are higher than ever and are illegal according to the constitution, and those who believe all socialistic federal intervention/aid/service plans must be outlawed because they interfere with states rights so therefor are unconstitutional.

the only reason i can think of to not go that route would be thats its so much more fun and exciting to spit on people, send threatening emails or make threatening phone calls, call them derogatory names and shouting UNAMERICAN SOCIALIST COMMIE etc. hard to imagine that for some there is a much more gratifying ego boost to keeping things at the status quo?

You should read the book 1969 by Rob Kirkpatrick. It goes through the whole year of 1969. You think the teapartiers are bad you ought to read what the liberals and leftist radicals did in 1969 to "the establishment and the man". This is mild.

Yeah, other dictatorships in the middle east have attacked the U.S. Of course Bill Clinton just sent an FBI investigation team for the bombing of the USS COLE. You're having a hissy fit with just these two countries I couldn't imagine you supporting any actions against any other countries.

You should look at the second amendment again. It states "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." So is the state a state or the federal government? I say it is a state hence the reason the National Guard is under the control of the Governor of a state.

As far as your tea party definition of people goes. Pat White was talking about that today. Most are college educated, most make over 100K a year, most over 40 years of age, only about a 1/3 are republicans not your typical stereotype you keep talking about. Now I don't remember where he got his stats but he usually isn't that far off on his topics.

huh? He put me to sleep! What freedoms have been taken away that they cry about?

the right not to have Health Care for starters. Don't have it? then go to jail and mooch off the system that way I guess.

The right of my kids to not have more debt piled on them than they'll ever be able to afford by this regime.

The right to a better life than I have without being taxed to death "for making too much money" in order to pay for goverment's thirst to spend spend spend.

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:the right not to have Health Care for starters. Don't have it? then go to jail and mooch off the system that way I guess.

The right of my kids to not have more debt piled on them than they'll ever be able to afford by this regime.

The right to a better life than I have without being taxed to death "for making too much money" in order to pay for goverment's thirst to spend spend spend.

cincy i support that everyone should not be required to have healthcare...long as each adult going that route signs a document stating they will only seek and get medical care on a pay-as-they-go plan and will not sue any med facility or individual if they are refused service when they do not have cash in hand for all appointments or procedures as they are done. not enough money for that cancer treatment for the unplanned ailment you got..you dont get to rack up state/fed debt to pay for it. altho it would only apply to adults, because it would be negligent to allow your child to pay with their physical well-being for the refusal of the parent not having or saving enough cash to cover all potential health issues.

obama passed in april of 2009 the amount taken out for taxes from our payroll checks was decreased so we would have more cash available payday to payday to put gas in our cars and a little food on the table. there was not a financial "punishment" for it. i actually expected it to pinch me when it came time to complete my tax return. sure it wasnt a huge amount of money biweekly, but it did help me and alot of other people. to my pleasant surprise i got more back than usually do. there was also the new rule due to national financial near-collapse and extreme job losses that allowed me not to have to pay taxes on part of my unemployment income which helped. i am aware the britebarty teabaggy way some view that..that i would be one of the loser dumb bottomfeeders who doesnt pull my share far as paying taxes. easy and comforting for some to think they are superior, been folks like that since the recording of history so thats ok by me.

that whole theory about more taxes piled onto your kids than they will ever be able to afford which occured because actions intended to help the situation when the sky fell financially worldwide around october of 2008--lets keep in mind the real problem other than mortgages that made aig etc too big to fail is that they, not local banks (local in contractual name but sold to aig etc) held the actual funding for the majority of business payrolls, short term and long term operating expenses, pension monies, 401k and other plans among other things. that was why money was pumped into them to keep them afloat. now i hated that they didnt have to tell what they did with the money and that there were no regulatory requirements etc as much as anyone else but i do not believe my grandchildren will have any less opportunity for financial success 10 or 20 years from now based on how that all happened. and at least obama is working hard now to implement regulatory reforms..and the teabaggers and just-say-no crowd are fighting that too. doesnt that tell you anything about what the REAL problems are politically?? please look thru history and find me factual examples where generationally the people who were children were in general unable to do as well if not better financially than their parents had when huge amounts of money were spent on wars, on outer space exploration, on nukes, on implementing social security, on implementing medicare or medicaid etc etc. MAYBE the money put into bailouts didnt help the situation. MAYBE it did. there is no actual way to measure the liklihood either way at this point. do you really believe the tarp money and the recovery money spent since october of last year have likely destroyed your childrens financial future? think of all the "omg the sky is falling and the warm fuzzy world as we know it is ending" moments that have happened in the last 100 years. which times did it actually happen? i know when it happened for the teabaggers but i dont think you have both feet firmly planted in that camp..i give you more credit.

Scooby01_98 wrote:You should read the book 1969 by Rob Kirkpatrick. It goes through the whole year of 1969. You think the teapartiers are bad you ought to read what the liberals and leftist radicals did in 1969 to "the establishment and the man". This is mild.

Yeah, other dictatorships in the middle east have attacked the U.S. Of course Bill Clinton just sent an FBI investigation team for the bombing of the USS COLE. You're having a hissy fit with just these two countries I couldn't imagine you supporting any actions against any other countries.

You should look at the second amendment again. It states "A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed." So is the state a state or the federal government? I say it is a state hence the reason the National Guard is under the control of the Governor of a state.

As far as your tea party definition of people goes. Pat White was talking about that today. Most are college educated, most make over 100K a year, most over 40 years of age, only about a 1/3 are republicans not your typical stereotype you keep talking about. Now I don't remember where he got his stats but he usually isn't that far off on his topics.

there is a perfectly legal and transparent way to address the many "issues" put forth as excuses for militant teabagger hate-based rage. why dont the angry mobs find a politician who is supportive of their ideas..michelle bachmann or ron paul or some elected supporter, and push this person to insist on an intensive investigation of unamerican activities? this could cover issues of the birthers and their angst about obama being born somewhere other than america, the big gov complainers who believe the healthcare reform is illegal and against state rights, those who think our taxes are higher than ever and are illegal according to the constitution, and those who believe all socialistic federal intervention/aid/service plans must be outlawed because they interfere with states rights so therefor are unconstitutional.

the only reason i can think of to not go that route would be thats its so much more fun and exciting to spit on people, send threatening emails or make threatening phone calls, call them derogatory names and shouting UNAMERICAN SOCIALIST COMMIE etc. hard to imagine that for some there is a much more gratifying ego boost to keeping things at the status quo?

FF...you bring up some good points, and I agree with you about Children should be covered regardless.

And you're right, I don't have my feet firmly planted in the Tea Party Camp, but they do bring up some good points, like this guy did, who I thought did it in a calm, cool, collected, well-thought-out fashion. Didn't yell and scream, didn't name-call, etc.

Just my two copper Lincolns...

well bless their little hearts, there is evolution LOL! the teabagger movement leaders are taking seriously the leadership training on how to act in a more socially acceptable manner...promo's for the training are all over the coffeepartyusa web sites, which are over half teabaggers who still act the way they have since obama got iowa support during the primaries and became a threat to those proud supporters of that genteel REAL american era where things were different...if they were truely concerned about privacy and liberties and rights and waste of money and not paying as we go..they would have been out totin guns at all the repub festivities the last several years too.

floridafun wrote:
there is a perfectly legal and transparent way to address the many "issues" put forth as excuses for militant teabagger hate-based rage. why dont the angry mobs find a politician who is supportive of their ideas..michelle bachmann or ron paul or some elected supporter, and push this person to insist on an intensive investigation of unamerican activities? this could cover issues of the birthers and their angst about obama being born somewhere other than america, the big gov complainers who believe the healthcare reform is illegal and against state rights, those who think our taxes are higher than ever and are illegal according to the constitution, and those who believe all socialistic federal intervention/aid/service plans must be outlawed because they interfere with states rights so therefor are unconstitutional.

the only reason i can think of to not go that route would be thats its so much more fun and exciting to spit on people, send threatening emails or make threatening phone calls, call them derogatory names and shouting UNAMERICAN SOCIALIST COMMIE etc. hard to imagine that for some there is a much more gratifying ego boost to keeping things at the status quo?

You whine about what you call militant teabaggers but still give a pass the the militant leftist groups.....yeah that sounds about like it from you.