McCain's Chances Crumbling? Palin Going Rogue?
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McCain's Chances Crumbling? Palin Going Rogue?
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/25/palin.tension/index.html
Story Highlights
# Sources say there is brewing tension between McCain aides and Palin
# Palin aide says she is trying to take control of her message
# "She is a diva. She takes no advice from anyone," says a McCain adviser
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yeah i saw that too jugo..i wondered it its real or if they are just showing her mavericky side for 2012
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floridafun wrote:yeah i saw that too jugo..i wondered it its real or if they are just showing her mavericky side for 2012
Florida, we can only HOPE that the republicans are so stupid to nominate this incompetent in 4 years ... if they do Obama rolls to a second term.
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i think he will anyway bman. altho it goes against the grain of the rr and neocon hopes, obama supporters dont expect everything to be magically fixed within months at a wave of THE ONES messiahical hand. they are just expecting to make progress and bring the nation to a completely different and much needed inclusive/respectable/for-the-people direction.
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floridafun wrote:i think he will anyway bman. altho it goes against the grain of the rr and neocon hopes, obama supporters dont expect everything to be magically fixed within months at a wave of THE ONES messiahical hand. they are just expecting to make progress and bring the nation to a completely different and much needed inclusive/respectable/for-the-people direction.
I thought he would feed with the world with a few fish and some water. He can't? Really? I thought I heard he had healed leepers too, made the blind see and parted the red sea? I guess my bubble has been burst, he is just a normal every day average Joe Six Pack. Couldn't call him a plumber he is not licenced. lol
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No, silly. He isn't the Messiah. His supporters just think he is.Bman wrote:I thought he would feed with the world with a few fish and some water. He can't? Really? I thought I heard he had healed leepers too, made the blind see and parted the red sea? I guess my bubble has been burst, he is just a normal every day average Joe Six Pack. Couldn't call him a plumber he is not licenced. lol
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no sorry mark they dont...its what those like you who need to compartmentalize things they dont understand call it. those lost on the political sea of "where is a candidate i can believe in?"..want to feel the excitement but nobody is generating it for you, so you have to use mockery to cut down those who have a candidate they are excited about.
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Hey, Bman brought it up. I guess he can use mockery/sarcasm but I can't.floridafun wrote:no sorry mark they dont...its what those like you who need to compartmentalize things they dont understand call it. those lost on the political sea of "where is a candidate i can believe in?"..want to feel the excitement but nobody is generating it for you, so you have to use mockery to cut down those who have a candidate they are excited about.
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Markwes wrote:No, silly. He isn't the Messiah. His supporters just think he is.Bman wrote:I thought he would feed with the world with a few fish and some water. He can't? Really? I thought I heard he had healed leepers too, made the blind see and parted the red sea? I guess my bubble has been burst, he is just a normal every day average Joe Six Pack. Couldn't call him a plumber he is not licenced. lol
Is that all you got? I have criticized him in the past...
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your frequent use of Messiah says much, but you knew that.
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Another 15 uses of that term and I'll be right up there with your use of "the Rove playbook". Another 20 times and I'll be close to your reference to Rush and/or sheep.floridafun wrote:your frequent use of Messiah says much, but you knew that.
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Just keep in mind that Palin is a Diva. Diva for VP!!!
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LOL...how many more times to get even with 'bushco'???Markwes wrote:Another 15 uses of that term and I'll be right up there with your use of "the Rove playbook". Another 20 times and I'll be close to your reference to Rush and/or sheep.floridafun wrote:your frequent use of Messiah says much, but you knew that.
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Cincy Fan 44 wrote:LOL...how many more times to get even with 'bushco'???Markwes wrote:Another 15 uses of that term and I'll be right up there with your use of "the Rove playbook". Another 20 times and I'll be close to your reference to Rush and/or sheep.floridafun wrote:your frequent use of Messiah says much, but you knew that.
Now you're steppin' over the line Cincyco
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LTRT wrote:Cincy Fan 44 wrote:LOL...how many more times to get even with 'bushco'???Markwes wrote:Another 15 uses of that term and I'll be right up there with your use of "the Rove playbook". Another 20 times and I'll be close to your reference to Rush and/or sheep.floridafun wrote:your frequent use of Messiah says much, but you knew that.
Now you're steppin' over the line Cincyco
Why is there always something to do with a line and Cincy being involved?
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So Campbell Brown thinks "Diva" is a sexist term.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/27/campbell.brown.palin.diva/index.html
I disagree with Ms. Brown. Diva, as I have heard it used is not a derogatory term. I'd liken it to "leader", with a side order of "opinionated".
Hey, It's a hell of a lot better than "McCain's bitch". I have not one reservation with her stepping out and being unique, but it's not exactly the expected "team player" approach to have a rookie call the shots. When picked as a VP running mate for President, Palin said she was ready for the job. It appears that view may have been shattered by something unknown. I'd like to think it was the outing of the wardrobe details, and the lame response from the campaign that "they'll be donated to charity". What is rather insensitive, that maybe someone should have asked her if she wanted to keep the $2500 blazer or the $800 boots before they were promised to charity.
If I was a diva, that would seriously piss me off.
Anyhow, It's nice to see all of these MSM media types express concerned about a "sexist" term. (snicker - at the media)
Oh, and there's plenty of male equivalent's to diva....
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/27/campbell.brown.palin.diva/index.html
Let's just start with the word diva. It is obviously a sexist slight -- a term that is only applied to women, almost always in a derogatory way. It's usually applied to women who are viewed as overly ambitious. It is applied to demanding women, to women who follow their own path.
There is really no equivalent word for men -- except maybe "successful."
So, with that in mind, I applaud Sarah Palin, or any other woman, for embracing her inner diva and "busting free" of what she believes is a damaging situation.
But we are going to go easy on the Helen Reddy here, because what is really pathetic about all of this is the hypocrisy.
I disagree with Ms. Brown. Diva, as I have heard it used is not a derogatory term. I'd liken it to "leader", with a side order of "opinionated".
Hey, It's a hell of a lot better than "McCain's bitch". I have not one reservation with her stepping out and being unique, but it's not exactly the expected "team player" approach to have a rookie call the shots. When picked as a VP running mate for President, Palin said she was ready for the job. It appears that view may have been shattered by something unknown. I'd like to think it was the outing of the wardrobe details, and the lame response from the campaign that "they'll be donated to charity". What is rather insensitive, that maybe someone should have asked her if she wanted to keep the $2500 blazer or the $800 boots before they were promised to charity.
If I was a diva, that would seriously piss me off.
Anyhow, It's nice to see all of these MSM media types express concerned about a "sexist" term. (snicker - at the media)
Oh, and there's plenty of male equivalent's to diva....
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meta4 wrote:It's a hell of a lot better than "McCain's bitch"
I still think McCain's Bitch is quite fitting. I mean, she is a pitbull with lipstick. And is basically a pawn for the party...
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Jugomugo wrote:meta4 wrote:It's a hell of a lot better than "McCain's bitch"
I still think McCain's Bitch is quite fitting. I mean, she is a pitbull with lipstick. And is basically a pawn for the party...
I don't disagree, except for the bitch part. Diva fits better and they shoulda let her do her thing from day one.
It's a tough call. She said she was ready, was she really? I look at their whole campaign with an "it is what it is" or has been. I looked at the thing objectively and up until he asked Palin to be his running mate he had a race, after that... quickly after that... it became what it became.
You can't be a politician then point the finger at the public saying "they did this to me".
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