Moral Standards: Dems vs. Repubs

Politicians have standards?

only when they are ostriscizing someone else who got caught doing what they themselves do but havent yet been caught ;-)

That cartoon pretty much says it all!

Markwes wrote:That cartoon pretty much says it all!

Pls how high of a standard did Senator Ensign have when he was screwing his friend and coworker and his family paying her off? LOL How high were Larry Craig's standards? lol

I care about a politician's ethics over morality. If Larry Craig wanted to get it from behind in an airport bathroom, I frankly dont care... if he is found with $96,000 in bribe money in his fridge, that's a different story.

Pez wrote:I care about a politician's ethics over morality. If Larry Craig wanted to get it from behind in an airport bathroom, I frankly dont care... if he is found with $96,000 in bribe money in his fridge, that's a different story.

I can agree with you there Pez.

the problem seems to be that the brighter moral shroud some lay claim to as they villify someone who is not on their political team when that person has an ethical lapse..but when they have a lapse themselves its different LOL!!

sigh...and now a ky (?) senator stepping down..one of those big-time abstinance promoters who got busted for having an affair with a young thing staffer..

floridafun wrote:sigh...and now a ky (?) senator stepping down..one of those big-time abstinance promoters who got busted for having an affair with a young thing staffer..

Just like Gary Conditt. Good grief give this a rest.

its not brittney its an elected politician. its in the news. dont read it if you dont want to.

Bman wrote:

Markwes wrote:That cartoon pretty much says it all!

Pls how high of a standard did Senator Ensign have when he was screwing his friend and coworker and his family paying her off? LOL How high were Larry Craig's standards? lol

If you want to go that route...

what about that goofy bastard that was getting sexual favors in the white house, cheated on his wife, lied about it, was impeached...ringing bells?

agreed. i wasnt a clintonite.

sliptap wrote:

Bman wrote:

Markwes wrote:That cartoon pretty much says it all!

Pls how high of a standard did Senator Ensign have when he was screwing his friend and coworker and his family paying her off? LOL How high were Larry Craig's standards? lol

If you want to go that route...

what about that goofy bastard that was getting sexual favors in the white house, cheated on his wife, lied about it, was impeached...ringing bells?

Was Bill Clinton a Promise Keeper like Ensign, did Bill have a bumper sticker on his car "I Love my Wife?" .... Ensign and Craig ACTED morally superior when in fact they were AS sleezy as Bill Clinton.

Bman wrote:

sliptap wrote:

Bman wrote:

Markwes wrote:That cartoon pretty much says it all!

Pls how high of a standard did Senator Ensign have when he was screwing his friend and coworker and his family paying her off? LOL How high were Larry Craig's standards? lol

If you want to go that route...

what about that goofy bastard that was getting sexual favors in the white house, cheated on his wife, lied about it, was impeached...ringing bells?

Was Bill Clinton a Promise Keeper like Ensign, did Bill have a bumper sticker on his car "I Love my Wife?" .... Ensign and Craig ACTED morally superior when in fact they were AS sleezy as Bill Clinton.

bman is right. After all democrats are expected to be immoral.

Bman wrote:Was Bill Clinton a Promise Keeper like Ensign, did Bill have a bumper sticker on his car "I Love my Wife?" .... Ensign and Craig ACTED morally superior when in fact they were AS sleezy as Bill Clinton.

Lol, Bill Clinton was just a big of scumbag. He didn't have to try and hide it.

...Chappaquiddick, or is that still too soon? I've got a 10 page essay on that little incident if you need a little enlightening.

Kroman wrote:bman is right. After all democrats are expected to be immoral.

Please I will go a little S L O W E R for you and Kroman ... ok.

I have the problem with people PRETENDING to be morally superior. Ensign being a christian PROMISE KEEPER and then flucking around on his wife and trying to buy silence is just blantantly hypocritical. Larry Craig stood in the hull of the Senate and pronounced gays and lesbians as immoral and disgusting human beings yet he hopped on a plane to Minnesota and ran to a public restroom and tried to turn a trick or two in the restroom. Please, now if Bill Clinton had preached monogomy and loyalty to ones wife and then went and did what he did then it would be comparable. What is your beef with Ted Kennedy ... yea, he had an accident when he was younger .... way younger .... and fled the scene and a lady died. How does Ted's accident have anything with Larry Craig getting a blowjob from another man in a bathrooom.

Please Slip ... yea ... enlighten me please.

Bman wrote:Please I will go a little S L O W E R for you and Kroman ... ok.

I have the problem with people PRETENDING to be morally superior. Ensign being a christian PROMISE KEEPER and then flucking around on his wife and trying to buy silence is just blantantly hypocritical. Larry Craig stood in the hull of the Senate and pronounced gays and lesbians as immoral and disgusting human beings yet he hopped on a plane to Minnesota and ran to a public restroom and tried to turn a trick or two in the restroom. Please, now if Bill Clinton had preached monogomy and loyalty to ones wife and then went and did what he did then it would be comparable. What is your beef with Ted Kennedy ... yea, he had an accident when he was younger .... way younger .... and fled the scene and a lady died. How does Ted's accident have anything with Larry Craig getting a blowjob from another man in a bathrooom.

Please Slip ... yea ... enlighten me please.

I think I get it now. Cheating on your spouse is okay as long as you didn't speak out against it.

Markwes wrote:

Bman wrote:Please I will go a little S L O W E R for you and Kroman ... ok.

I have the problem with people PRETENDING to be morally superior. Ensign being a christian PROMISE KEEPER and then flucking around on his wife and trying to buy silence is just blantantly hypocritical. Larry Craig stood in the hull of the Senate and pronounced gays and lesbians as immoral and disgusting human beings yet he hopped on a plane to Minnesota and ran to a public restroom and tried to turn a trick or two in the restroom. Please, now if Bill Clinton had preached monogomy and loyalty to ones wife and then went and did what he did then it would be comparable. What is your beef with Ted Kennedy ... yea, he had an accident when he was younger .... way younger .... and fled the scene and a lady died. How does Ted's accident have anything with Larry Craig getting a blowjob from another man in a bathrooom.

Please Slip ... yea ... enlighten me please.

I think I get it now. Cheating on your spouse is okay as long as you didn't speak out against it.

Or if you are a democrat.

Markwes wrote:

Bman wrote:Please I will go a little S L O W E R for you and Kroman ... ok.

I have the problem with people PRETENDING to be morally superior. Ensign being a christian PROMISE KEEPER and then flucking around on his wife and trying to buy silence is just blantantly hypocritical. Larry Craig stood in the hull of the Senate and pronounced gays and lesbians as immoral and disgusting human beings yet he hopped on a plane to Minnesota and ran to a public restroom and tried to turn a trick or two in the restroom. Please, now if Bill Clinton had preached monogomy and loyalty to ones wife and then went and did what he did then it would be comparable. What is your beef with Ted Kennedy ... yea, he had an accident when he was younger .... way younger .... and fled the scene and a lady died. How does Ted's accident have anything with Larry Craig getting a blowjob from another man in a bathrooom.

Please Slip ... yea ... enlighten me please.

I think I get it now. Cheating on your spouse is okay as long as you didn't speak out against it.

No ... acting morally superior then doing it SHOULD cost you more shame.

Kroman wrote:Or if you are a democrat.

Anyone who decides to stand up and get votes based on his morality deserves to be punished in the court of public opinion for their hypocrisy. Clinton's activity in office was reprehensible, but he did not court votes from the religious right by agreeding to protect the sanctity of marriage from evil fags (for instance).

Again, While some may argue it's splitting hairs, ethical standards are what a politician should be held to. The measureing stick of someone's moral standards should be held by that person's relationship to his family and perhaps his God. The moral measuring stick should not be weilded by the electorate.

Bman wrote:No ... acting morally superior then doing it SHOULD cost you more shame.

Yeah, we understood you the first time...but your attempt to downplay my (and Kroman's) intelligence was a nice Liberal touch. I appreciate that great example, as it fit very nicely into the conversation!

Bman wrote:What is your beef with Ted Kennedy ... yea, he had an accident when he was younger .... way younger .... and fled the scene and a lady died. How does Ted's accident have anything with Larry Craig getting a blowjob from another man in a bathrooom.

"...and fled the scene and a lady died." just wow. That didn't ring any alarms on the humanity meter?

I wouldn't exactly call leaving a poor woman to drown, while using political connections to get out of ANY trouble "an accident."

It was just another example of a corrupt politician.

Pez wrote:Anyone who decides to stand up and get votes based on his morality deserves to be punished in the court of public opinion for their hypocrisy. Clinton's activity in office was reprehensible, but he did not court votes from the religious right by agreeding to protect the sanctity of marriage from evil fags (for instance).

Again, While some may argue it's splitting hairs, ethical standards are what a politician should be held to. The measureing stick of someone's moral standards should be held by that person's relationship to his family and perhaps his God. The moral measuring stick should not be weilded by the electorate.

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Yeah, but his point...should I say opinion...was that Clinton was not as worse. That's an opinionated questioned and trying to put one of those politician's character above the other is an impossible thing to judge. Please refer back to my response, where I said they were both scumbags, just the same.

The point I was making with my ORIGINAL statement, was that there are just as many corrupt Democrats as Republicans...as a downplay of Bman's original post.