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Post  Cincy Fan 44 Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:20 am

http://thehill.com//blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/64971-mich-democrat-pelosi-not-happy-with-me

Rep. Bart Stupak said Speaker Pelosi is not pleased with his effort to change abortion-related provisions in the healthcare bill being crafted by the House.

During an interview on C-SPAN's "Washington Journal" show, Stupak (D-Mich.) said he is undeterred in trying to ensure that taxpayer dollars do not pay for abortions. Stupak, who opposes abortion rights, acknowledged that some in his party are upset with his public campaign to change the bill.

"The Speaker is not happy with me," Stupak said.

The Energy and Commerce subcommittee chairman said he has been working with Democratic leaders on a compromise, but they haven't been able to strike a deal. Stupak pointed out that he and Democratic leaders have a fundamental disagreement on whether health plans that receive subsidies from the government should be allowed to provide coverage options on abortions.

Stupak wants a vote on the House floor to strike the language, and predicts he would have the votes to pass such an amendment.

"This has been federal law since 1976," he said, noting that President Barack Obama has vowed not to allow healthcare reform to pay for abortions.
"We have to have a vote," he said.

If he doesn't get one, Stupak said he and as many as 39 other Democrats will vote no on a procedural motion to bring the health bill to the floor. A House vote on healthcare reform could be taken next week.

Stupak stressed he wants to vote for healthcare reform and is "still somewhat optimistic" that he will reach an accord with Democratic leaders.

However, the Michigan Democrat said he will not be backing down: "I'm comfortable with where I'm at. This is who I am. It's reflective of my district. If it costs me my seat, so be it."

A portion of the interview can be accessed here.The entire interview can be seen here.

Looks like I agree with this guy and Obama. Go figure.
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Post  Guest Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:49 am

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:http://thehill.com//blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/64971-mich-democrat-pelosi-not-happy-with-me

Looks like I agree with this guy and Obama. Go figure.

I would agree with this provision. Not to infringe on rights to obtain said services, but from a purely health care cost reduction common sense approach. Pregnancy is a preventable "predicament", etc...

It's not like this provision is going to infringe on the rights of the incubators from fathering their brood with multiple sperm donors in order to justify welfare and food stamps support. rabbit
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Post  floridafun Wed Oct 28, 2009 12:59 pm

looks to me like the same kind of stuff that brought us YOU LIED during the prez address to congress a little while back. there IS NO BILL YET,there is a declaration it is absolutely not to cover abortion, but this character wants language in it before it becomes a bill that will prevent it from using fed funding for abortions. its already illegal for fed funding to pay for abortions isnt it? so what will be the next issue that must be reworded?...mmm how about making sure the language in the not-a-bill-yet clarifies that no liberals will be forced to have an abortion. now we need specific wording added so no mistake can be made on this...NO LIBERALS WILL BE FORCED TO HAVE ABORTIONS. also no green eyed people.

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Post  Guest Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:11 pm

floridafun wrote:looks to me like the same kind of stuff that brought us YOU LIED during the prez address to congress a little while back. there IS NO BILL YET,there is a declaration it is absolutely not to cover abortion, but this character wants language in it before it becomes a bill that will prevent it from using fed funding for abortions. its already illegal for fed funding to pay for abortions isnt it? so what will be the next issue that must be reworded?...mmm how about making sure the language in the not-a-bill-yet clarifies that no liberals will be forced to have an abortion. now we need specific wording added so no mistake can be made on this...NO LIBERALS WILL BE FORCED TO HAVE ABORTIONS. also no green eyed people.

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So what exactly are you saying? Are you disagreeing with the addition, or the media coverage? That it's unnecessarily "wordy"... they are quibbling over irrelevant provisions? Or are you saying that you disagree and government/medical healthcare/taxpayer funds should go to funding pregnancy termination(s)?
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Post  sliptap Wed Oct 28, 2009 2:38 pm

...leave it to Pelosi to stand up for something that is already illegal. Maybe she should look into using federal money to correct the chemical imbalance in her head instead.

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Post  Cincy Fan 44 Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:12 pm

sliptap wrote:...leave it to Pelosi to stand up for something that is already illegal. Maybe she should look into using federal money to correct the chemical imbalance in her head instead.

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China doesn't have enough money that we can borrow for something like that... lol!
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Post  LTRT Thu Nov 05, 2009 4:41 pm

Pelosi's Government-Run Health Plan Will Require Monthly Abortion Premium

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Post  Guest Fri Nov 06, 2009 12:57 am

floridafun wrote:looks to me like the same kind of stuff that brought us YOU LIED during the prez address to congress a little while back. there IS NO BILL YET,there is a declaration it is absolutely not to cover abortion, but this character wants language in it before it becomes a bill that will prevent it from using fed funding for abortions. its already illegal for fed funding to pay for abortions isnt it? so what will be the next issue that must be reworded?...mmm how about making sure the language in the not-a-bill-yet clarifies that no liberals will be forced to have an abortion. now we need specific wording added so no mistake can be made on this...NO LIBERALS WILL BE FORCED TO HAVE ABORTIONS. also no green eyed people.

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How about just "NO LIBERALS"
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Post  Markwes Thu Dec 10, 2009 9:24 pm

I read a good letter in the News-Sentinel that I can't find now, but it was talking about Nancy Pelosi's plan to pay for half of the $1 trillion health care by "squeezing" Medicare. The point was if we knew there was $500 billion being wasted, why wasn't something done years ago? I guess she is admitting that our government is wasteful. Great.
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Post  Pez Fri Dec 11, 2009 9:23 am

Markwes wrote:I read a good letter in the News-Sentinel that I can't find now, but it was talking about Nancy Pelosi's plan to pay for half of the $1 trillion health care by "squeezing" Medicare. The point was if we knew there was $500 billion being wasted, why wasn't something done years ago? I guess she is admitting that our government is wasteful. Great.

I read that latter also... I think it was in the JG maybe? I cant believe that the Dems cant do better than this clown for speaker...

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Post  Scooby01_98 Fri Dec 11, 2009 10:24 am

I like to see the Medicare cuts now since the new Senate plan is to lower the age to 55. If anything Medicare funding will have to be increased.
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Post  floridafun Sat Dec 12, 2009 11:12 pm

the under 65's will pay, according to income if they get to enroll..hard telling at this point what will pass.. i am waiting to see what the final accepted bill is at this point. right now is just august on the senate floor imho. i still am very for a public option. i can see adding to the ranks of medicare and medicaid if we cant get the public option too. i support nancy and think all things considered she is doing much better than tom DE HAMMER delay did.

as i studied what the stupak abortion restriction came down to..no female can be on/buy any plan which allows any abortion..if she qualifies for any subsidy funds which i likely will. so me, 61 yr old, would not be allowed to choose a plan that i find has great benefits for my subsidized dollar..because the plan (just like most private plans already in effect but never complained about) has an abortion option altho NO FED FUNDING allowed to pay and no possibility i would ever be using the abortion option.
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Post  awbinfortwayne Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:43 pm

I'd be very surprised if anything passes this year. It looks like the democrats have one holdout on the abortion issue, and other democrats are demanding the public option. The Republicans are looking to derail any change in healthcare. At the end of the day it looks like it will be business as normal as far as healthcare is concerned.

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Post  Guest Thu Dec 17, 2009 6:47 pm

Sad but (maybe) true. {guitar riff, gruff vocals}
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Post  Pez Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:46 am

awbinfortwayne wrote:I'd be very surprised if anything passes this year. It looks like the democrats have one holdout on the abortion issue, and other democrats are demanding the public option. The Republicans are looking to derail any change in healthcare. At the end of the day it looks like it will be business as normal as far as healthcare is concerned.

I'm ticked the public option (or various flavors) is off the table, more for the people that should have the balls to say, "why am I voting for this then?" but dont..

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Post  Guest Fri Dec 18, 2009 10:54 am

my wife went to the dentist earlier this week. she had a cavity and got it filled. $340 out of pocket, pray to the insurance companies to pay their share... Insurance paid $57 and denied everything else. they denied paying for ANY of the filling because the dentist used that white material on a molar instead of silver amalgum (if that's what you call it).

My dentist told me when I was 7 years old, the industry is moving away from the metal stuff because it uses mercury or something. that was 27 years ago...

fucking bastards...
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Post  IrishGuy Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:13 am

meta4 wrote:my wife went to the dentist earlier this week. she had a cavity and got it filled. $340 out of pocket, pray to the insurance companies to pay their share... Insurance paid $57 and denied everything else. they denied paying for ANY of the filling because the dentist used that white material on a molar instead of silver amalgum (if that's what you call it).

My dentist told me when I was 7 years old, the industry is moving away from the metal stuff because it uses mercury or something. that was 27 years ago...

fucking bastards...

Similar experience with my dentist in the last few months. I hate trying to plead your case with these people too.
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