10 Reasons to Whack Obama's Stimulus Plan

Some people are going to oppose President Obama's ginormous stimulus package just because they're on a different political team. But when you look at the economic evidence, it sure seems like an economic recovery package that's heavy on government spending and light on tax cuts is just the opposite of what we should be doing right now.

(4) not less than $335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director;

floridafun wrote:if page 147 is the one that alarmed the pro-illegal abortion crowd, it was dropped off the bill before it passed.

LTRT wrote:pg 147 of the bill.

(4) not less than $335,000,000 shall be used as an additional amount to carry out domestic HIV/AIDS, viral hepatitis, sexually-transmitted diseases, and tuberculosis prevention programs, as jointly determined by the Secretary and the Director;

floridafun wrote:if page 147 is the one that alarmed the pro-illegal abortion crowd, it was dropped off the bill before it passed.

WASHINGTON, DC—Congressman Pence delivered the following speech in opposition to the so-called ‘stimulus bill’ from the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill, H.R. 1 – the “American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009,” passed despite bipartisan opposition to the legislation:

“Our nation is in recession and millions of American families are hurting.

“Many have lost their jobs, many now worry that they’ll be next and it is absolutely right that this Congress is taking decisive action in the early days of 2009.

“But the bill that House Democrats have brought to the floor is not about stimulating the economy. The only thing this Democrat bill will stimulate is more government and more debt.

“Under the guise of stimulus, House Democrats have brought a partisan bill to the floor. It’s merely a wish list of longstanding liberal Democrat priorities that have little do with putting our economy back on its feet.

“Millions of Americans are asking today: ‘What does $50 million to the National Endowment for the Arts have to do with creating jobs? What is $400 million for climate change research going to do to put people back to work in Indiana? And what is $335 million for sexually transmitted disease education going to do to get this country working again?’

“House Republicans will oppose this bill for one reason—it won’t work.

“More big government spending on liberal programs won’t cure what ails the American economy.

“House Republicans have a better solution: fast-acting tax relief for working families, small businesses and family farms.

“According to analysis and economic models used by President Obama’s top economic advisors—when applied to our plan—we come to one conclusion: twice the jobs, half the cost with the Republican alternative.

“Democrats also said that we’re going to pass temporary and targeted stimulus legislation. But let me remind the American people what we keep hearing—from the Speaker of the House, whom I deeply respect, to other colleagues that have come to the floor—we have heard that this bill is about ‘taking America in a new direction.’

“I say with great respect, I thought this was about creating jobs.

“This long litany--$136 billion in program spending—is simply about trying to reorder the budget priorities according to the whims of a Democrat majority.

“What we ought to be doing is coming together across this middle aisle, across the partisan divide—as our new President has challenged us to do—bring the best ideas, the best minds, the best solutions—the Republican alternative is such a solution. I urge its support and yield back.”

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:From Indiana Congressman Mike Pence...

WASHINGTON, DC—Congressman Pence delivered the following speech in opposition to the so-called ‘stimulus bill’ from the floor of the U.S. House of Representatives. The bill, H.R. 1 – the “American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009,” passed despite bipartisan opposition to the legislation:

It passed 244-188, with 11 Democrats joining the Republicans.

Jugomugo wrote:The whole thing looks like a pile of pork barrel spending and no real job incentives.

meta4 wrote:i'm glad this didn't pass.

Now cut the "crap" and get back to work!

IrishGuy wrote:

meta4 wrote:i'm glad this didn't pass.

Now cut the "crap" and get back to work!

It did pass, right? I think I'm confused.

meta4 wrote:i'm glad this didn't pass.

Now cut the "crap" and get back to work!

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:i'm glad this didn't pass.

Now cut the "crap" and get back to work!

Come on Meta, get with the program. It DID pass the House. Is this the first time we can actually accuse you of your sh*t being weak????

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:i'm glad this didn't pass.

Now cut the "crap" and get back to work!

Come on Meta, get with the program. It DID pass the House. Is this the first time we can actually accuse you of your sh*t being weak????

Oh, you've had plenty of opportunities to declare YSIW on me. You just gotta be willing to pull the trigger and hope you don't miss...

I know this won't pass the Senate without major work. I guess I ASSumed that would be common sense knowledge.

... for once, I'm pushing chips over to the Republicans (Red 23) Lets see them put the money where their ideas is...

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:

Cincy Fan 44 wrote:

meta4 wrote:i'm glad this didn't pass.

Now cut the "crap" and get back to work!

Come on Meta, get with the program. It DID pass the House. Is this the first time we can actually accuse you of your sh*t being weak????

Oh, you've had plenty of opportunities to declare YSIW on me. You just gotta be willing to pull the trigger and hope you don't miss...

I know this won't pass the Senate without major work. I guess I ASSumed that would be common sense knowledge.

... for once, I'm pushing chips over to the Republicans (Red 23) Lets see them put the money where their ideas is...

YSIW! is should be 'are'! Who learned you english!?!?!?!

meta4 wrote: That's why I used the bucktooth grin. I thought that would be "hoosier hillbilly" enough to get the point across.

Jugomugo wrote:They just need to call up Ron Paul and have him take care of business.

Jugomugo wrote:They just need to call up Ron Paul and have him take care of business.

LTRT wrote:

floridafun wrote:if page 147 is the one that alarmed the pro-illegal abortion crowd, it was dropped off the bill before it passed.

There you go again ass-uming. The reason is simple, how does 335 mill for std prevention stimulate (no pun intended) the economy, that's all. As for the dropping of the provision, I'm on the board before checking the news.

Edit: after a quick check I can't find where pg 147 was dropped, can you provide a link?

Is the press wrong again?
Economic-stimulus bills allot millions for STD prevention
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jan/29/economic-stimulus-bills-allot-millions-for-std-pre/

floridafun wrote:i didnt ASSume..i repeated what a coworker said she sees it as, and clearly stated that. actually i did believe her that it had been dropped, you know i normally fact check carefully... when i go to work tomorrow i will beat her up for telling me fairy tales